206 GTi such a dog

yep, my GTi is still shagged

It has
Flat spots
Rough Idle
Stalling on return to idle or more common RPM drops to 500 rpm and the ECU
plays hunt
poor performance
nasty engine vibration when the rpm goes either way through 1000 rpm (worse
on returning to idle)

the dealers have tried

ecu downloads (many)
new alternator
new spark plugs and coils
piston seals
new ecu

all to no avail

what the fuk is wrong with my car

its a 2000 (dec) GTi
but when its playing up a 1.1 goes faster

 

The idle stepper motor is a common fault on ALL peugeots that have them. My
last 406 had this problem

Luke

 

i've suggested this in the past
but they seem reluctant to change things until the ecu logs a fault

the new ecu is making a far better task of corecting the faults but are now
getting
worse but it fails to log the car when it stutters and seems to lose a
cylinder it at
the moment only does it for less than a second before it could go on for
several seconds resulting
in an ecu fault capture.

but they thought the ecu was at fault, but wonder if all these faults
constant can
kill the ecu?

cheers

miner.-

 

the stepper fault doesn't always show on the ecu log or so i'm told. In fact
loads of fault don't show on the ecu log. why they changed the ecu (£500)
BEFORE the stepper (£70) is probably because the ecu is easier

 

just been to the dealer and they are not prepared to
investigate any further as the new ECU is fine according to them

the service manager sat in the car and cannot feel the rough idle
cannot see the shaking of the gearstick and cannot see the ECU hunting from
time to
time. They had a 15 minute drive in it and can't feel any flat spots. well i
can

they funnily enough wouldn't let me try any other peugeots so they can show
me
that they all do it.

peugeot customer services are a waste of space

the car is not safe it cuts out from time to time and has flat spots that
come and go and
every now and then loses all power, which is great when you've just pulled
out

the warranty is about to end in october

i give up i really do, any one have a solution?
i can't even sell it because no one in their right mind would buy that and
i've lost so much money on it its worthless now.

how i wish i'd bought a clio 172 now

miner.-

 

yep, my GTi is still shagged

Did they check Oxigen sensor / exaust gases?
That "flat spot" sounds like oxigen sensor!

 

it fukked again

massive missfire
loss of power
ecu warning light (k light) back on
cuts out again
back to dealers monday hopefully the light will stay on as sometimes it
doesn't

miner.-

 

Take it to another dealer.

 

i think thats the only option its been to 2 already
the one where i bought it from are hopeless and i wouldn't ever take a car
there again
these are the clowns that allowed brake fluid into the master cylinder when
changing the pads

i'm got it booked into to another dealer on the 29th but 1st thing tommorrow
its going to the
dealer so they can at least see the ecu fault light and i can say
'believe me now, yet again'

i will never ever buy a peugeot again, i love the cars but the build quality
is the same as an embassy fag packet and the dealers are fuckin hopeless

this has been ongoing for nearly a year, peugeot themselves are now of the
opinion
the cars fixed cause they sent a suit out to test it and what a clueless
muppet he was

personally i think it will never be fixed

miner.-

 

have you got a video camera? They can't agrue with you if it's on tape doing
it

 

the ecu light is still on, its running like a bag of shit at the moment
they do tend to believe you with the light on

my dad was with me yesterday and he'll come with me in the morning

it's generally ok once they've done a new ecu download but gets worse and
worse til it hits this stage
and they know this

its had double figures of ecu downloads

its a lemon and they know it

the rough idle/vibration at 1000 rpm is there all the while

i've written some letters today

to trading standards
to the dealer i bought the car from rejecting it
the dealer who can't fix it asking why
the society of motor traders asking for help

anyone who knows about cars will only have to drive it to feel the flatspots
and jerks

any other ideas?
apart from sell the sack of shit?
no one in their right mind will buy it at the moment will they and why
should i sell it
i like it when it works which these days is so very rare

miner.-

 

any other ideas?

Someone at work has a 206 GTi and has given her no strife at all (and she
has given it a lot of strife, especially at traffic lights).

As you say, you've got a lemon. I tend to agree that it will be a shit for
ever. I'd sell it if I were you - do an ECU download so it is OK-ish again,
and flog it, preferably back to them.

Regarding you liking it when it works, buy another GTi from a respectable
dealer, preferably a year old. I always buy my cars a year old as they have
run in and should have got past the teething problem stage. I have never had
a problem with a car yet (touch wood).

Good luck.

MS

 

It does sound like it's detecting detonation and retarding, hence it goes
downhill after a ecu download

Try disconnecting the battery for half an hour and then reconnecting next
time it starts acting like a dog.

If its good again, then it is the ecu retarding the settings

Luke

 

the dealer is stumped so its awaiting transfer to an even bigger dealer in
birmingham
this dealer is peugeot owned

i'm going to try the legal route as this is unacceptable

they have had double figures attempts in 10 months

miner.-

 

if it's that bad you can go throygh the small claims court. I think it cost
£15 to do so. Make sure you've got a list of every visit and what was done.
My dealer didn't log every visit i made when my 306 did the same thing. I
logged them though!!As i said before video the car playing up. They can't
argue with that.

Simon

 

yes i am now keeping a full log
the dealers have only listed occasions where they have undertaken work. i
have 5 listed from dealer 2 alone.

the car is now being tested at a pug owned dealers in birmingham.
i'm awaiting their call back

its hard to video a missfire and stall;-)

cheers

miner.-

 

but you can video/photo the ecu light on which i believe you said earlier
the dealer won't believe.

 

they believe me as they were able to extract a fault code from
the eprom even though the ecu had cleared the fault.

its now with another dealer

the 1.6 16v 307 i have also stutters and idles like
a bag of shit, must use the same cheapo electrics

shame because pug build some of the finest handling
shopping trolleys, all let down by duffer dealers, fag packet build quality
and
electrics out of a kinder egg

miner.-