306 1.9TD Cam Belt replacement

Discussion in 'Peugeot 306' started by Eccles, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. Eccles

    Eccles Guest

    I'm about to replace the cam and auxiliary belts on my 1999 'S' 306 1.9TD
    (XUD9 engine).

    According to the Halfords manual, the camshaft and fuel pump sprockets can
    be locked in position using 8mm bolts in the holes provided. The crankshaft
    allegedly can be locked in TDC position by inserting an 8mm rod or drill
    shaft into a hole in the flywheel via "the hole in the left-hand flange of
    the cylinder block by the starter motor".

    This area on my car is completely obscured by the oil filler, fuel filter
    and a coolant manifold, and perhaps the starter motor. It is impossible to
    see where the hole might be, let alone gain access to insert a rod.

    The Haynes book makes no mention of the need to remove all these items. Am
    I missing something? There are no alignment marks on the new belt, so I
    assume there will be no alignment marks on the sprockets as there have been
    on previous cars I have owned.

    Would it be safe to lock the camshaft and fuel pump sprockets, and then
    carefully mark the position of the crankshaft sprocket before removal of the
    old belt?

    Peter
     
    Eccles, Aug 28, 2006
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  2. Eccles

    Mindwipe Guest

    if in doubt
    remove the starter so you can get to the hole in the block
     
    Mindwipe, Aug 28, 2006
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  3. I have just replaced the cambelt on my 406 with a 1.9TD engine and had the
    same problem. The solution is simple At the bottom of the bell housing is a
    removable segment used to fit a Peugeot flywheel locking tool for locking
    the engine when it has been removed from the car. Make a metal detent to fit
    one flywheel tooth and bolt in place once the crank shaft bolt has been
    released and the locking bolts have been fitted in the fuel pump and cam
    shaft pulleys. This replaces the need for the rod which is impossible to use
    unless the starter motor etc have been removed.
    Mike
     
    Michael Roche, Aug 28, 2006
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  4. Eccles

    Eccles Guest

    Thank you gentlemen. I shall explore both options.

    I think I might go for the locking tool option. Can I also use it to lock
    the engine when I loosen the crankshaft bolt? Haynes actually shows such a
    tool in position for this purpose, but with the engine out and gearbox
    removed. They don't mention the removable segment. Haynes specifically
    advises against using the 8mm rod for this purpose, presumably because it
    might shear or bend. I have some 1/4" steel plate handy which should do the
    job.

    Peter
     
    Eccles, Aug 28, 2006
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  5. Eccles

    Brian Guest

    I did one of these engines a couple of weeks ago and it is quite possible to
    insert a rod into the back of the flywheel, but you won't get anything
    larger than 6 mm into the hole.
    I used an allen key with some stiff wire wrapped round it to hold it in
    place. Use a small torch and look at an angle down behind the starter, and
    you will see the hole in the V of the webs cast into the block.
    I think it is safer to use the correct rod, as otherwise it could be that
    you repeat an error made by the last person to replace the belt, or the old
    belt could have jumped a tooth from being a little too slack - I have seen
    this.
    To undo the crankshaft nut, I lock the front disc (I had the ventilated
    ones) with a stout screwdriver in the vent slot and against the brake
    calliper. Then you need a socket and VERY long bar to stand any chance of
    undoing it. Oh, and put it into 5th gear.
    On the car I did, I could not, for anything, remove the bolt from the
    crankshaft, so I had to remove the lower plastic cover, then pull the belt
    out round the aux belt pulley.
     
    Brian, Aug 29, 2006
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  6. To loosen the crank shaft pulley I used a second person with the car in 5
    gear and their foot hard on the brake. You will need a long bar on the
    socket as the bolt should be liberally coated with locktight. I used an air
    compressor and ratchet tool to subject the crank shaft bolt to some good
    vibrations to free the locktight. The Peugeot locking tool works across 3
    flywheel teeth so a home made détente is likely to slip or damage a single
    tooth with the force needed to remove the nut.
    Mike
     
    Michael Roche, Aug 29, 2006
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  7. Eccles

    Fitzy Guest

    two methods I have used to overcome the above problems,
    1,, crank pulley bolt
    fit long bar and socket, jam bar on the floor, or ground or axle stand,
    turn the ignition key for 1 - 2 seconds pulley turns clockwise bolt is
    loosened,

    2,, belt locking tools, if they are not available,very carefully cut the
    belt in half, right around the circumference and remove the outer section,
    leaving the inner section to maintain the timing, carefully fit the new belt
    until it pushes the old section off the pulleys, cut the old belt to remove,
    these methods will work on most vehicles,
    some people will frown on these methods, but they have got me out of the
    proverbial, many times, when the standard methods have failed,

    Fitzy
     
    Fitzy, Aug 29, 2006
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