306 alternator problem?

Discussion in 'Peugeot 306' started by geoff, May 5, 2006.

  1. geoff

    geoff Guest

    How can I check whether the alternator is working ok?

    Pulled up outside the garage after a 12mile journey turned off engine
    , opened garage door, engine wouldn't restart - seemed to be low batt
    volts (dash lights all dimmed). Had battery on charge overnight,
    started immediately this evening.

    The battery is 2 year old (and was changed because of similar symptoms
    of not holding a charge).

    If it is the alternator at fault is it a garage job or can it be
    changed at home? Any websites or info you could point me too?

    Also are the diodes housed within it or separately?
    thanks

    Geoff
     
    geoff, May 5, 2006
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  2. geoff

    Slim Guest

    If you have a volt meter, stick it to the battery terminals, it should
    read 12 volts, then start the car and the voltage should rise to about
    14.2 volts.

    Any increase from 12 volts while the engine is running means that it is
    charging, the larger the charge the better, up to a limit !! If the
    voltage goes up too far, then yer battery is cookin.

    Hope that helps for now, but I am sure that someone will be along with
    a much better explanation soon.

    Regards
    Slim
     
    Slim, May 5, 2006
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  3. geoff

    geoff Guest

    Tnx slim

    with just headlights on it reads 12.1V with engine running and
    headlights on it rises to 12.6 so it appears to be charging by only a
    small amount - though with a freshly charged battery would the charge
    current be small anyway? The fact it doesn't get near the 14.2 bothers
    me - should it?

    Geoff
     
    geoff, May 5, 2006
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  4. geoff

    Slim Guest

    Geoff.

    Even with a fully charged battery, you should be getting somewhere near
    the 14.2 mark.

    I would guess that the alternator has shit itself and needs replacing.

    Regards
    Slim.
     
    Slim, May 5, 2006
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  5. geoff

    Brian Guest

    It does sound as if the alternator is not working properly. How old is the
    car etc? Which engine, and does it have air con?
    All this only affects the complexity of removing and replacing the
    alternator. Not a really difficult job, depending on access.
    Most battery suppliers will do a check on the charging system for you. Did
    this battery have more than a 2 year guarantee, if so the supplier would
    probably check it out for nothing, just to avoid having to replace it under
    the guarantee.
     
    Brian, May 5, 2006
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  6. geoff

    daddyfreddy Guest

    Before you replace anything, remove both battery terminals, clean them,
    tighten back on well and then re-check.
     
    daddyfreddy, May 6, 2006
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  7. geoff

    Joop! Guest

    and check the minus side connection to the chassis.
     
    Joop!, May 7, 2006
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  8. geoff

    geoff Guest

    Is 12year old, 1600 petrol, no Aircon

    Had the battery checked at garage (quote for new alternator was around
    £100+ mark. Considering the age of the vehicle - is probably only
    worth couple of hundred quid? but battery was ok, rechecked voltages
    on getting home, now there is no increase in volts when I rev the
    engine. Someone did suggest it may be brushes? problem now is getting
    the b*gger out.

    have slackened off the adjusting screw which seems to have made no
    difference to the belt tension and also removed long bolt from top.
    Struggling now to even see let alone reach the lower bolt - guess its
    really a job for a ramp? and not yer casual diyer (bodger) scrabbling
    around on the garage floor.

    rgds

    Geoff
     
    geoff, May 8, 2006
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  9. geoff

    mislav Guest

    Hi Geoff.

    Recently I experienced the similar problem and guess you'd want to hear
    about it. The symptoms were at first intermittent charging, then no charging
    at all. The charging indicator went off and it was obvious from the
    intensity of various lightbulbs around the car that the alternator was not
    producing current. The car is 15 years old 309. At first I wanted to try to
    fix it by myself, but then I learned that there are a great numbers of
    different alternators fitted to the same car model so it's best to leave the
    job to the specialized car electrician. They usually have replacement parts
    for most popular models and sometimes these are interchangable. I also found
    out that I have Bosch alternator.

    Anyway, the guy at the garage quickly dismounted the alternator (from under
    the car!) and determined that regulator was faulty and need to be replaced.
    Brushes are being replaced together with the regulator and with the car of
    that age it's good to check the wires and contacts around the alternators as
    well. The bill was around £20 for regulator and about an hour of labor cost.

    Hope that helps
    Mislav
     
    mislav, May 9, 2006
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  10. geoff

    geoff Guest

    On Tue, 9 May 2006 10:17:54 +0200, "mislav"

    Thanks Mislav

    Strange thing was the charge light never did indicate a problem (the
    bulb was ok btw) anyway I finally got it removed and found a
    replacement at a local auto salvage yard for just under £30. Replaced
    it tonight and now seeing 14V across the battery, so think problem
    sorted. It was satisfying to have repaired it myself, and I could do
    another in shorter time, but maybe will leave things to a garage next
    time.

    cheers

    Geoff
     
    geoff, May 9, 2006
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