307 hdi90 lumpy idle followup

Just been in the garage for 2 days and have now been informed the car needs
a complete new fuel system and wasn't even told why.is it true i heard
somewhere that the in tank fuel pump is breaking up and causing this?

 

That is what happened to me. The lift pump starts to break up and
contaminates the fuel system with metal particles. If you are lucky the
fuel filter will be intact and you may get away lighter with a decent
workshop who can flush everything through and replace the pump, I got away
with £800. Peugeots answer is to replace everything from (and including)
tank to injectors, I was quoted £3000 (the pump alone is around £500) by the
Pug Agent. I don't know if you can get reconditioned ones cheaper though.

 

well it's a 2003 HDI 90 so i'm assuming it's being done under warranty,are
they fitting a different model of pump?

 

I have no idea. Mine is a 1999 HDI 110 and the pump went at 93,000 miles
but I have seen cases where it has gone at less than 30,000. They must be
aware of the problem but whether any attempt has been made to rectify it is
another matter.

 

Mines only done 15000 miles,i think it's absoloutely ridiculous a major part
like that can fail so soon.i'm waiting to hear tommorrow how long it's gonna
take to get all the parts together.

 

I thought that this problem only affected the earlier HDI models. By 2003
they should have been using a later type of lift pump. Doesn't say much for
the fuel filter either does it. I thought the whole point of a filter was to
stop any type of crud reaching the high pressure pump.

 

I have a 2002 HDI 90 and I hear a wining sound in the back of the car.
Is this possibly from the fuelpump as mentioned above?
Rob

 

Our 2001 51 reg 90BHP Hdi 307 had the whole fuel system replaced under
warranty last year. We had been complaining of poor performance at idle
and low revs and lumpy runing at low revs. It even cut out one cold
morning. The garage after a couple of visits admitted this is a known
problem with the fuel pump and metal particles. Peugeot replaced
everything as you said under warranty. But we had to have several
further visits as the fuel tank kept crushing under vacuum. They
eventually replaced the fuel tank again and all is now fine now, except
for the blasted indicator problem. Managed to get a further 6 months
warranty out of peugeot, but I think we've had it with them.

Robert

 

the fuel tank kept crushing? what do you mean exactly? Also since the new
fuel system has it been idling and running ok?

 

Sorry, The fuel tank should have a means of allowing air into the tank
as the fuel is used up. My 406 has a small valve just inside the fuel
filler. If this release valve is not functioning as in the case of my
first replacement tank, as the fuel was used up, the bottom of the tank
started to squash in, a bit like sucking the air out of a fizzy drink
bottle. Apparantly on the 307 fuel tank the air release valve is on the
top of the tank, you cannot see it when fitted to the car. When this
happened to our tank, the plastic bits under the tank (some sort of mud
guard if you have a look) all broke off and dragged on the ground, this
is what first alerted me to a problem.

To be honest this car has been a nightmare from the start and I cannot
reccommend 307's at all, and personally will not buy another French car.

Robert

 

I fully agree,I've had a 51 plate 307 hdi 90 for about 8 months previous to
this 2003 model and i had lower arm bush problems with that 1,which was in
warranty and they were quoting me approx £450.00 to replace lower arms even
though it was in warranty,which is why i part ex'd for this 1 which now i'm
having even more problems with and i've only had it 5 months,as you i will
NOT be purchasing any more pug's in my lifetime,It's kinda strange cause i
was recommended to pug diesels from a friend on they're so called long term
reliability,I think he's feeling a bit red faced now cause i've just about
had enough of them.

 

To be honest this car has been a nightmare from the

What a right old mess. I have a Peugeot 106 and it is an absolutely
FANTASTIC car. Seriously. It was cheap to buy, is cheap to run, is reliable
and a great car to drive. It is everything I want in a car.

Meanwhile, my girlfiend got a Peugeot 307 company car. First one was OK,
just the usual teething problems, but she recently got a new one and it is a
complete pile of crap.

The amount of things that have gone wrong is comical, and she took it in
once to have an issue with rattling suspension and on the invoice she got
back it didn't mention this problem but said that the car had a software
upgrade. So, being an inept dealer, they obviously lost the details of the
problem with the car and just routinely did a software upgrade and charged
her company for the privilege.

It really is a good job she's a company car driver because she can rely on
free replacement cars, and gets free breakdown cover. She has been ready to
crash it deliberately just to write the bloody thing off!

Anyway, I know that when I have to buy a new car, it will not be a Peugeot.
On the basis of my car, I cannot recommend them enough, but that is because
it was a nice, cheap, reliable and functional car. As I say, everything I
want.

But on the basis of a 307, I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.

But, having said all that, two managers at my work have £35,000 Mercedes and
they have been piles of shite too. Mostly electronics problems, although the
turbo has gone on both of them, and one comical problem my boss had was when
the lights were switched to full beam, they stuck on full beam, even if you
turned the engine off and on again.

So I wouldn't touch Mercedes with a bargepole, either. Their dealers sound
just as inept as Peugeot, too.

MS