405 diesal leak

Discussion in 'Peugeot 405' started by sean storer via CarKB.com, Apr 2, 2005.

  1. i got a 405 turbo diesal 1.9 with lucas fuel pump and got a serious diesal
    leak from the engine compartment near top of engine i think. it appears to
    be from cam belt side of engine rather than from fuel pump section on top i
    checked all pipes going to pump and nothing from there has anyone got any
    ideas? when i say serious i lost bout 1/2 tank of fuel in couple of miles.
    it only leaks when engine is running not when ignition is on if that helps
     
    sean storer via CarKB.com, Apr 2, 2005
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  2. sean storer via CarKB.com

    G.T Guest

    Hi,

    I'd bet that Diesel pump's drive-end seal is worn. Have a Diesel specialist
    to replace the seal. It happended on my brother's '91 205 TD. Come on, it's
    a Roto / Lucas pump ?
     
    G.T, Apr 2, 2005
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    Nigel Guest

    I agree. But I have known it on the Bosch type too, though only once
    or twice. Lucas much more!!!
     
    Nigel, Apr 2, 2005
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    Mindwipe Guest

    usually doesnt make a difference on the make
    it usually down to overtightening of cam belt or the occasional fill with
    petrol by accident
     
    Mindwipe, Apr 2, 2005
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  5. the engine was acting very sluggih hardly any power then the power came
    back but with the leak does that work with the theory about drive end seal?
    the engine runs fine now but throws diesel out. would it b easier and
    cheaper to get replacacement from scrappies ?
     
    sean storer via CarKB.com, Apr 2, 2005
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    Nigel Guest

    Doesn't cost that much to get the seal replaced as long as there is no
    other damage. Of course you would have to get the pump off, but you
    would have to do that whichever route you took.
     
    Nigel, Apr 2, 2005
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  7. sean storer via CarKB.com

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    It seems it's much more common with Roto's. Damn', my car has a DPC !
    Possibly. Third choice, wrong type of fuel return "valve" (don't know the
    real term), happened with my brother's car : Bosch valve fit to a Roto pump.
    As Bosch's have a lower return pressure, the hole is a bit less big - this
    causes an overpressure which cracks the seal. That was the diagnostics of
    the Diesel specialist which overhauled the pump. Having later compared with
    my return valve, yes it's far bigger on Rotos.
     
    G.T, Apr 2, 2005
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    brian Guest

    Just make sure that the leak off pipes on the injectors are still OK. I had
    a similar problem with a leak, top offside of the engine, and it was the
    leak off pipe on the timing end injector, the one which is just a plug.
    Worth checking before stripping half the engine down.

    Brian.
     
    brian, Apr 2, 2005
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    Mindwipe Guest

    sometimes the seal simply goes because the pump bearing is worn
    in cases like these a new seal is a temp fix
    to be fair a good diesel mechanic can tell
     
    Mindwipe, Apr 3, 2005
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  10. sean storer via CarKB.com

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    It makes good sense to me.
    Yes. Giving the pump to a Diesel specialist would be my best advice anyway,
    as opening such pumps really requires that you know what you're doing - and
    I wouldn't consider taking the risk ! Excepted for easy ops like throttle
    actuator cover change, of course.
     
    G.T, Apr 3, 2005
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    Fitzy Guest

    if it leaks only when running, its worth checking the fuel return pipe,
    as this could be the problem, and it is in the timing belt area,

    Fitzy
     
    Fitzy, Apr 3, 2005
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  12. sean storer via CarKB.com

    Mindwipe Guest

    sometimes a tech will just fit a seal though
    not even checking for shaft movement
    then it will last a short while cos the seals are quite good and then fail
    later
    suppose some people get rid in the middle!!
     
    Mindwipe, Apr 3, 2005
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  13. sean storer via CarKB.com

    Mindwipe Guest

    also bear in mind that if the belt is contaminated it needs renewing too
     
    Mindwipe, Apr 3, 2005
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  14. i tried looking for the fuel return pipe but cant seem to locate it in the
    timing belt area there doesnt seem to be any pipes around that area at all
    i think the fuel return goes round other side doesnt it ????
     
    sean storer via CarKB.com, Apr 5, 2005
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