406 1.9 TDI

Discussion in 'Peugeot 406' started by MIKE ROCHE, Nov 9, 2003.

  1. MIKE ROCHE

    MIKE ROCHE Guest

    Gents
    With this cold weather my diesel is producing white smoke and sounding like
    a tractor when it starts as it is not firing on all cylinders.
    My diagnosis is faulty glow plug as it OK when warm.

    1 Is there a way of identifying the faulty plug without removing all 4 from
    the car.
    2 In order to change the glow plugs what actually needs to be removed to get
    at them. The two passenger ones won't be too bad as access is restricted.
    The other two look as though a lot of dismantling is required including
    removing the diesel pump.
    3 Are specialist spanners / tools required

    Mike
     
    MIKE ROCHE, Nov 9, 2003
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    yeha Guest

    They all come out without any special tools or techniques. Just a bit
    of patience. If you're going to do one, then do them all. Shouldn't
    cost more than £30 for the lot. I got Beru from ECP last time.
     
    yeha, Nov 9, 2003
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    Rick Maninov Guest

    First of all Mike, I hope your diagnosois is correct, although in my
    experience plugs out means black smoke on startup.
    To answer your questions though.
    The only effective way to test them is to put em on a battery, I've always
    found resistance checks inconclusive.
    I tend to leave changing em to a garage, two are easy, one's difficult and
    the fourth is a ba*tard to get at.
    (I used to do the plugs on my old diesel 305 without breaking into a sweat)
    If one or two's gone the others won't be far behind, and sods law dictates
    that if it is only one, it'll be the one behind the pump.
    imo.

    Rick.
     
    Rick Maninov, Nov 10, 2003
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    Mark Guest

    On this subject. I have just had all 4 glow plugs replaced on my Pug
    405 1.9 TD (1995). Reason being that the car was struggling to start
    and chucking out thick grey / black smoke. Since having the plugs
    changed the car starts better but still throws out lots of smoke and
    does not always start first time i.e. I wait until the glow plug light
    has gone out attempt to start with no luck turn the key again to
    relight the glow plugs wait and try again. Second time it starts Ok.

    Why is this? Is it just because it's getting colder in the morning at
    this time of year? or is it mainly because my Pug is getting nearer
    110K miles on the clock?
     
    Mark, Nov 10, 2003
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  5. MIKE ROCHE

    Cheater2k Guest

    Mines still running perfect, no problems, starts first time, with 158k on
    the clock
     
    Cheater2k, Nov 10, 2003
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  6. MIKE ROCHE

    Andrew Kirby Guest

    does not always start first time i.e. I wait until the glow plug light
    I don't know why it's doing that, unless one of the new plugs was duff -
    not many people (including garages) check new plugs. Another possibility
    is that you have a poor connection somewhere in the glow-plug circuit
    (glow-plug relay or wiring)
    At 110k miles the engine is barely run in, so I shouldn't worry about that.

    Andy
     
    Andrew Kirby, Nov 11, 2003
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    Rick Maninov Guest

    Another one is they fitted the wrong plugs, or couldn't be assed to change
    em all, some of these monkeys don't give a stuff.
    Generaly it shouldn't need two goes at the plugs even in the dead of
    winter.
    All the Pug diesels I've had, including a 405 with 140K on it, started first
    turn when the plugs were ok.

    Rick.
     
    Rick Maninov, Nov 11, 2003
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  8. MIKE ROCHE

    MIKE ROCHE Guest

    Gents
    Thanks for information. Looks like a hard slog as I don't trust the local
    Pug dealer to do any job properly unfortunately.
    Mike
     
    MIKE ROCHE, Nov 11, 2003
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