406 Hdi Not Starting

Discussion in 'Peugeot 406' started by turboaceman, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. turboaceman

    turboaceman Guest

    We have a 1999 Peugeot 406 2litre Hdi 110bhp which has covered 96000
    miles. We have owned it since 12000 miles and it was been serviced
    regularly. Two months ago it refused to start. The engine turned but
    it would not fire up. There followed a sequence of breakdown
    recoveries and trips to two garages. Sometimes it would start if it
    was a warm day; at other times it was impossible. Initially the fuel
    pump in the tank was replaced, this was followed by the fuel pump
    mounted on the engine. When we attempt to start the car from cold it
    usually fires up within three attempts, sometimes a little throttle is
    required. If the car has reached operating temperature and then left
    to cool for twenty minutes it becomes very difficult to start, often
    needing up to twelve attempts. Once running the car drives as
    normal. It has been suggested that the next step is to replace the
    injectors but as this would cost over £1000 I am reluctant to spend
    this on a car of this age. I feel that the problem is related to the
    engine temperature and the flow of fuel. I'd be pleased to know your
    recommendations. Aside from these problems this is a great car.
     
    turboaceman, Aug 12, 2007
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  2. turboaceman

    Eccles Guest

    Could be air getting into the fuel line somewhere. Any sign of fuel seeping
    out, at the priming pump for example? Has the car ever been refuelled with
    unleaded?

    Peter
     
    Eccles, Aug 12, 2007
    #2

  3. The HDI doesn't have a priming pump but air getting in does sound likely.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Aug 12, 2007
    #3
  4. turboaceman

    turboaceman Guest

    One of the mechanics spotted that some of the pipes which sits on top
    of the engine was weeping and he replaced all those pipes. Is there
    anywhere else to check?

    Thanks
     
    turboaceman, Aug 13, 2007
    #4
  5. Presumably you need to trace the piping all the way from the engine back to
    where it leaves the tank. Weeping would certainly indicate where air can
    get into the system. If you are lucky one of the professionals like Nigel
    et al will spot this and give you better guidance. There is a filter
    somewhere under the back seat that is worth checking too. It is highly
    unlikely to be the injectors that are causing your problem.

    I take it that, being a 1999 HDI your car is a Hybrid of mkI and mkII like
    mine?
     
    Keith Willcocks, Aug 13, 2007
    #5
  6. turboaceman

    turboaceman Guest

    Thanks

    Mine's got a GLX with the newer style head lamps and front fogs. It's
    a great car although its had a fair amount of money spent in the last
    couple of years - clutch (burnt it out trying to reverse a caravan up
    a slope in a tight space <stupid!!>, cam belt, rear shockers too.
    Running it as a second car at the moment. Main car is now a Mondeo
    130tdci - Quicker but not as nice or well built. Would have gone for
    a 407 but they're not built for towing caravans
     
    turboaceman, Aug 13, 2007
    #6
  7. turboaceman

    john Guest

    Hi,

    I think that you should the injectors be tested.
    In Holland this would cost you something like 25 euro per injector without
    of course removal and placing back into the engine.

    I have had almost the same problem.
    My hdi became more difficult to start each time with a warm engine up to a
    point where this failed completely.
    Remarkable after cool down of the engine there was no problem.
    I replaved the wrong injectors and since then there have been no starting
    problems.
    Also i noticed that where the engine always needed something like three
    turns to start, this has been improved as well.
    It starts now almost instantly after ignition.

    regards,

    henry


    We have a 1999 Peugeot 406 2litre Hdi 110bhp which has covered 96000
    miles. We have owned it since 12000 miles and it was been serviced
    regularly. Two months ago it refused to start. The engine turned but
    it would not fire up. There followed a sequence of breakdown
    recoveries and trips to two garages. Sometimes it would start if it
    was a warm day; at other times it was impossible. Initially the fuel
    pump in the tank was replaced, this was followed by the fuel pump
    mounted on the engine. When we attempt to start the car from cold it
    usually fires up within three attempts, sometimes a little throttle is
    required. If the car has reached operating temperature and then left
    to cool for twenty minutes it becomes very difficult to start, often
    needing up to twelve attempts. Once running the car drives as
    normal. It has been suggested that the next step is to replace the
    injectors but as this would cost over £1000 I am reluctant to spend
    this on a car of this age. I feel that the problem is related to the
    engine temperature and the flow of fuel. I'd be pleased to know your
    recommendations. Aside from these problems this is a great car.
     
    john, Aug 18, 2007
    #7
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