406 remote key - again!

Discussion in 'Peugeot 406' started by dazza12, Sep 8, 2005.

  1. dazza12

    dazza12 Guest

    Hi,

    I’ve spent the past few months trying in vain to get a remote locking
    fob for my 406 (1996).

    My dealer refuses to assist me in any way, so speaking to another
    garage, plus advice on here I’ve done a bit of digging around in the
    car.

    I have an aftermarket key at present, with no remote. I’ve checked the
    headlining near the courtesy mirror, there’s nothing there. I’ve
    removed the glovebox, and using the Haynes manual as a guide, I think
    I’ve located what may be the remote receiver behind an access panel.

    The unit in question was the upper of the units, is black, marked with
    a Valeo ELE brand, followed by a number, then "K6 - Made in UK",
    then followed by a barcode. I’ve taken down all the details and have
    taken a photo of the unit out of the vehicle.

    Have I located the remote receiver, or is it looking like I’m going to
    have to keep digging? If it is, what details do I need to give to the
    dealer to pull his finger out and get the thing ordered? And what else
    should I be aware of?

    Any assistance you can give will be greatly appreciated.
     
    dazza12, Sep 8, 2005
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  2. dazza12

    Tonyh Guest

    Does your blob of plastic start the car?. If yes the car has no immo
    cicuit in key. The original key only contains a remote locker.
    I suggest taking your car to another dealer with the instruction.
    "supply new remote key". The whole deal will be done for about £70,
    you seem to have spent that in time already looking for the answer
    yourself.
    T.
     
    Tonyh, Sep 8, 2005
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  3. dazza12

    dazza12 Guest

    Just been to another Peugeot dealer in another town, who have looked
    up my chassis number on Laser, and have confirmed that the part behind
    the glovebox is indeed the remote receiver.

    They’ve told me that to supply a fob/key, they will need to supply a
    new receiver as they are apparently only available as a matched set -
    ie receiver, and two remotes. For that (and that is with me fitting it
    myself) they’ve quoted £300 plus VAT!

    Anybody know if what they’ve told me is indeed true? At least this
    dealer appears to be more helpful, but I get the feeling they’re
    trying to maximise the amount they can get from me.
     
    dazza12, Sep 8, 2005
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  4. dazza12

    nigel Guest

    From what I can remember about these early 406s, the immobiliser part
    is in the keypad. So the key just opens the car and turns the
    ignition, if the keypad is set. You can make the key work the keypad,
    so you don't have to enter the 4 digit code. But first you need the
    plip key, and there lies the problem. When the car was new, it had 2
    keys. If you opened them up, inside is a small piece of paper with a
    code number on it and the word "pri" for primary, or "sec" for
    secondary. this number is needed to order a key to work with the
    receiver in the car. You have no original key and therefore no code
    number to order any. So the second dealer is correct. There is a faint
    hope that if you can get into your receiver there may be the code
    printed on a small tag somewhere. I have never had to do that so I
    don't really know. If there is then you can order 1 or 2 keys from
    that, otherwise you need a new receiver as well.
    Hope that is clear.
     
    nigel, Sep 8, 2005
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  5. If it is the original receiver with the car you can order a key on the
    chassisnr.

    Did that in Holland some years ago...
    Also if you have a used key you can change the code with some resoldering.
    Just find a datasheet of the receiver-transmitter IC wich is the same in the
    transmitter and receiver.

    greetings Aat
     
    Aat van den Bos, Sep 8, 2005
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  6. dazza12

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    That was true with 1st gen of IR systems based on TEA5500, but I don't know
    for more up-to-date systems.

    Regards,
    G.T
    205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
     
    G.T, Sep 9, 2005
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  7. dazza12

    dazza12 Guest

    So the code is for the receiver + 2 fob set? So there’s no way at all
    for Peugeot to obtain a code from what I already have?

    What format (ie length etc) are the codes normally? There’s
    information printed on the outside of the receiver, however I’ll take
    it out again this weekend and take a look inside to check if there’s
    another code.

    Am I correct in thinking that there’s a possibility that if I got a
    receiver and set of fobs from a breakers it will work? (Obviously with
    the correct key blades for my car). There’s a breakers near me with
    several 406’s, if this is possible I may pay them a visit.

    I’m trying to avoid having to pay a huge amount for a set of keys. At
    some point I’ve got to get a key as the one I’ve got is wearing quite
    badly. It would be ideal to have remote locking, as often in my job I
    have to carry large items to and from the car, and not having to
    fumble with my keys would be a bonus.
     
    dazza12, Sep 9, 2005
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  8. dazza12

    nigel Guest

    Yes that would work, and be your best option I guess
    Breakers it is then! And I would imagine around £50 at a guess.
     
    nigel, Sep 10, 2005
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  9. dazza12

    dazza12 Guest

    And it all ends on a happy note.

    Went to the local dealers again today, as they were a bit short
    staffed, spoke to the Parts manager about what I’d been through. He
    went out the back, and a few minutes later brought with him a box
    containing the receiver and 2 plips.

    I expected him to quote the £300 the other dealer had done, but he’d
    told me he got them in for another job, and weren’t used, and had been
    sat on the shelf for a long time. I could have the complete set for
    £80. I nearly ripped his hand off!

    Installed it in less than 10 minutes, and it works. Only thing is the
    smaller button does nothing, but I’m happy the car locks/unlocks with
    the plip.

    Now to search the forums for how to link my immobiliser with the key.
     
    dazza12, Sep 13, 2005
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  10. The small button is for the deadlocks on the 406 you may not have these on
    yours. It is a good idea not to use this facility as it is the major cause
    of lock failure .
    Mike
    http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=668615
     
    MICHAEL ROCHE, Sep 14, 2005
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  11. I also own a 96 406 1.8.
    Having the TEA5500 in it.
    Resoldered a 405 remote works perfectly.

    Greetz Aat
     
    Aat van den Bos, Sep 15, 2005
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  12. dazza12

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Ok, since it's a TEA5500-based unit. Damn I'm pretty surprised they've fit
    these units until so late !

    Regards,
    G.T
    205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
     
    G.T, Sep 15, 2005
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