407 Tyre Pressure Monitoring System

Discussion in 'Peugeot 407' started by Ken, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Ken

    Ken Guest

    Does anyone know how this works? I looked around the web - Wiki has a
    good section - but could not find how the Peugeot system works.
    Presumably there is some sort of sensor in each tyre?
     
    Ken, Feb 12, 2008
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  2. Ken

    Chris Guest

    Yea its called the police, they seam to tell you when your tyres are
    not good .
     
    Chris, Feb 12, 2008
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  3. Ken

    Gary G Jones Guest

    This web site gives you a cut away diagram as to how the sensors are fitted
    in the wheels
    http://www.tyresave.co.uk/smartire.html
    these are also the ones fitted to Renault so its a good bet that Peugeot
    would use pretty much the same.

    GGJ
     
    Gary G Jones, Feb 13, 2008
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    Nigel Guest

    The ones on Peugeot are incorporated in the tyre valve and very
    compact. Works on the same principal though. When you change one they
    have to be learnt to the ECU via the dealer diag tool.
     
    Nigel, Feb 14, 2008
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    Peter Chant Guest

    Does this mean that when I need new tyres it's a dealer job?

    Pete
     
    Peter Chant, Feb 14, 2008
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  6. Yes. Or a very clued up tyre place but they're like hens teeth.

    John
     
    John Greystrong, Feb 15, 2008
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  7. Ken

    Peter Chant Guest

    Thought so, suspect the receiver is programmed through cars computer.
     
    Peter Chant, Feb 15, 2008
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    pastis Guest

    Is it necessary to replace the valves everytime you buy new tires?
    I know that shops do this as a general practice, but is it really needed?

    Grtz,
    Eric B.
     
    pastis, Feb 15, 2008
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    Peter Chant Guest

    Don't know. Not sure how long the lithium batteries last - bet you need to
    take the tyres off to sort that - and if you have flat batteries the car
    whinges.

    Pete
     
    Peter Chant, Feb 15, 2008
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    Nigel Guest

    Errr no. You can go to any tyre place. As long as they are aware you
    have monitors fitted the tyre is changed in exactly the same way. And
    you don't have to change the valves every time you change a tyre.
     
    Nigel, Feb 16, 2008
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  11. Ken

    Ken Guest

    I just had a close look at my tyre valves and they seem to be on
    metallic stems screwed into the alloy wheels. this the first time in
    many may decades that I have not been able to see the rubber valve
    stem.

    Presumably this assembly is unaffected by a tyre change? (We are
    talking tubeless). Presumably the monitoring gear is built into the
    alloy wheels somehow?

    (I am suffering a form of culture shock - I mentioned the rear
    proximity warning beeps in another post. Now every second vehicle I
    see - any make - seems to have those sensors spaced around the rear
    bumper)
     
    Ken, Feb 17, 2008
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  12. Ken

    Guest Guest


    When I asked at my local Costco [which appears to have the lowest
    prices that I have so far seen for these] they said it was no problem
    but they would not rotate the tyre.
     
    Guest, Feb 17, 2008
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    Nigel Guest

    The monitor is part of that valve. The whole assembly is pushed
    through the hole and held in position with a nut. As long as the tyre
    changer is aware there is a monitor fitted and doesn't lever the tyre
    off in the vicinity of the valve!!
     
    Nigel, Feb 18, 2008
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    Ken Guest

    I often wonder about over-gadgetting in modern vehicles. In the nine
    years I had my 406 I only had one puncture - picked up a nail and I
    did not need a monitor to tell me I had a flat (though the vehicle
    sailed along pretty happily - it took me a few seconds to work out
    what was going on; but the tyre was a write-off anyway). I gather the
    development of these monitors may have begun as an over-reaction in
    the US to instability problems with
    suvs. There must be five of these monitors on my 407 (presumably the
    pressure in the spare is monitored or what?) each costing, I gather,
    about as much as a tyre. In my early years as a driver I heard scare
    stories about crashes caused by sudden deflation of front tyres (blow-
    outs they were called). Yet I have spoken to a few people who actually
    had front 'blow-outs and they reported no special difficulty - nothing
    frightening.

    Electric windows are another example. In a dozen or so vehicles, most
    of which had manual windows (my 1989 F150 is still going strong) I
    don't recall having any problems with window winders. Come to think of
    it, there have been a dozen or so posts to this group about electric
    window problems (usually related to resetting the ECU).

    Motorised seats I like - especially ones with two memories, like my
    406 SV. And side mirrors.
     
    Ken, Feb 21, 2008
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    Martin Dixon Guest

    In message <>
    I can confirm that it is no problem. I have had three of the tyres on
    my 407 replaced at different times by my local tyre and exhausts
    outlet, and there was no problem. You can even drive with the spare
    (which does not have monitoring) for a while, then when you replace
    the orginal wheel with a new type there is no problem
     
    Martin Dixon, Feb 22, 2008
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