Adjusting headlamps for driving abroad ?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Donwill, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. Donwill

    Donwill Guest

    2006 Peugeot 807 2litre HDI exec. I think it has xenon headlamps, how do you
    adjust for driving abroad? I'm told it is possible without buying those
    single use beam deflector things which are a rip off in my opinion. There is
    a white plastic gear thingy which has an allen key hole obviously for some
    kind of adjustment.
    Does anyone know how to do it?
    Don
     
    Donwill, Aug 2, 2008
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  2. Donwill

    Tom P Guest

    Nothing in the owners manual? Don't know about xenon lights, but on
    other headlights you can just tape over the lens segments with peel off
    masking tape.
     
    Tom P, Aug 2, 2008
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  3. I don't drive when traveling overseas, but I'm curious - don't all
    countries use the same high/low adjustment that's built into American
    cars? I thought it was standard practice to use high beams when driving
    in little-traveled non-urban areas, and lower them when oncoming traffic
    is encountered - to avoid blinding approaching drivers. (True, not all
    American drivers are courteous enough to comply, but SFAIK, there is a
    built-in switch to allow the driver to do so.)
     
    EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), Aug 2, 2008
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  4. Donwill

    Alfonso Guest

    Headlights in the UK do not dip vertically, they dip to the left. In
    Europe where they drive on the right, the headlamps dip to the right.
     
    Alfonso, Aug 2, 2008
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  5. Donwill

    Mike Lane Guest

    Yes, the original poster doesn't bother to mention that he is posting
    from the UK, and when he says "driving abroad" he means driving
    outside the UK.

    Johnny foreigner drives on the right, you know ;-)
     
    Mike Lane, Aug 2, 2008
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  6. Donwill

    tim..... Guest

    This is just normal day to day (Or rather night to night) driving.

    There should also be an adjustment to the headlight beams for when the car
    is fully loaded.

    tim
     
    tim....., Aug 2, 2008
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  7. Donwill

    JohnT Guest

     
    JohnT, Aug 2, 2008
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  8. Donwill

    Woody Guest


    Actually not. UK headlights dip to the left - correct. European
    headlights usually do not have the 'side blip' to light the kerb like UK
    types, so they rise and fall vertically. Hence the reason why you never
    see visiting European market cars in the UK with beam masks on their
    headlights. It isn't ignorance, they are just not needed.

    I once has a Renault 12 in which you could fit the headlight bulb in two
    positions to make it dip left or right. With modern headlights with
    shaped reflectors and clear lenses this is not possible.

    From the OP's point, I thought all Xenon headlights went up and down
    Europe style? You only need to shine them at the garage door from a yard
    or so away and you will see if they have the raised left blip on low
    beam indicative of UK headlights - if they are European the top of the
    beam will be flat all the way across.
     
    Woody, Aug 2, 2008
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  9. Donwill

    Alfonso Guest

    Actually not .... I have a 1994 LHD Volvo 440 which most definitely
    dips right.
     
    Alfonso, Aug 2, 2008
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  10. Donwill

    pastis Guest

    Same with my 307 !!
    Cars in Europe really do dip right!!
    With older cars you could very simply see on the pattern of the glass what
    you needed to cover up to drive in Brittain (or vice versa) but modern cars
    all have clear glasses without patterns... :-(
    So I would advise just to lower your lights so that other drivers don't get
    blinded.
    There should be better solutions, but I don't know how to find out...

    Grtz,
    Eric B.
     
    pastis, Aug 2, 2008
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  11. That makes sense! (I don't think they do that in the U.S., which may be
    why there seems to be a fair amount of variation in what constitute
    "high" and "low" beams.)
     
    EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), Aug 2, 2008
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  12. Donwill

    String bag Guest

    Shine your Xenon headlamps against a garage door or other flat vertical
    surface. You should notice that although they have a horizontal cut off
    (ahead) and rise to the left, they also then flatten out horizontally and
    don't just keep on going up to illuminate the nearside kerb, verge etc as
    with the 'older' type of headlamps. Because of this, when driving on the
    righthand side of the road, they don't dazzle oncoming drivers. When I took
    my 56 reg Citroen C5 to France in September 2007 I drove during the hours of
    darkness on dipped (Xenon) beam and didn't get a 'flash of the headlights'
    from any oncoming drivers, Gendarmes included. I think your dealer should
    have been able to give you this information or try Peugeot UK for
    confirmation.
    I think you'll find the 'white plastic gear thingy' is for manually
    adjusting the headlamp levels. If your car doesn't have self levelling
    suspension you will have the edge of a rotary control which, when revolved,
    will lower or raise the headlamp level.
    Have you had any advice from the <alt.autos.peugeot> newsgroup?
     
    String bag, Aug 2, 2008
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    lofty Guest

    When I go to Spain and France I just stick on the beam benders, take them
    off when I get back, for £7
    not worth worrying about.
    Lofty
     
    lofty, Aug 2, 2008
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  14. Donwill

    Tom P Guest

    Hi Don
    Ignore previous post, forget what I said about masking tape, there are
    no lens segments on xenon headlamps. I just found this in the BMW
    owners manual which may possibly apply to your car as well.

    The manual says either get the workshop to do it, or if you wnt to do it
    yourself:
    - make sure headlamps are cold and switched off.
    - remove the cover from the back of the headlights
    - for driving on the left - raise Lever 1 on left headlamp, lower
    Lever 1 on right headlamp.
    - for driving on the right, the opposite, ie lower Lever 1 on left
    headlamp, raise Lever 1 on right headlamp.
    There's a diagram of the back of the headlamp with a little lever visible.

    Like I suggested, try RTFM.
     
    Tom P, Aug 3, 2008
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  15. Donwill

    Donwill Guest

    Yes, sorry about that, I'm resident in the UK but travel on the continent of
    Europe quite often.
    Don
     
    Donwill, Aug 3, 2008
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  16. Donwill

    Donwill Guest

    If you go to Europe many times a year it can mount up, but if there is a
    switch or lever of some kind ?? However, I can check the beam pattern to see
    if it's an up and down dip or a down and left dip as others have suggested.
    Don
    Don
     
    Donwill, Aug 3, 2008
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  17. Donwill

    Donwill Guest

    OK thanks for that, it's the kind of info I was looking for, unfortunately
    there's nothing in the manual on the Peugeot 807 exec.
    Don
     
    Donwill, Aug 3, 2008
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    Ross Herbert Guest

    :Headlights in the UK do not dip vertically, they dip to the left. In
    :Europe where they drive on the right, the headlamps dip to the right.


    I'm in Australia and we have traditionally (in the main) followed whatever
    vehicle standards applied in the UK ever since I can remember. All UK vehicles I
    had any experience with (Austin. Morris, Standard Vanguard etc. etc.) always had
    dual lamp headlights. One set for High Beam and one for Low Beam, and there has
    been no change at all that I can see in the mode of operation. Yes, it is true
    that when dipped, the Low Beam lamps are adjusted slightly to the left, or kerb
    side, and the High Beam lamps are normally adjusted much higher and straight
    ahead. Dipping from High beam to Low Beam simply switches off the lamps which
    are aimed higher and straight ahead. As far as I know all current UK cars we get
    do the same - nothing has altered.

    I have a Pug 2006 2.0L 307 HDi and exactly the same principle applies. Each
    headlamp has 2 bulbs. The inner bulb is High Beam and the outer bulb is Low
    Beam. Primary adjustment for these beams I assume is purely by mechanical
    adjustment on the lamp mounting assembly in the same manner as it was on muy
    older vehicles. Dipping simply switches off the two High Beam lamps, which are
    aimed higher and straight ahead, and leaves the outer Low Beam, which is aimed
    lower and to the left.

    There is a small rotary headlight adjustment on the dash so that the beam can be
    adjusted vertically to compensate for traailer towing where the extra weight on
    the rear would lift the beams and blind oncoming drivers. I would be surprised
    if a similar vintage 807 didn't also have this control.
     
    Ross Herbert, Aug 3, 2008
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  19. Donwill

    nightjar Guest

    Some Xenon headlights have a fairly obvious lever that changes them between
    left and right hand dip. Others are fixed to one or the other and can only
    be changed with beam deflectors.

    Colin Bignell
     
    nightjar, Aug 3, 2008
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  20. Donwill

    Tom P Guest

    See if there is a removeable plastic cover on the back of the headlamp,
    and if there's a lever inside.
     
    Tom P, Aug 3, 2008
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