air bag warning lamp

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by tricky4000, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. tricky4000

    tricky4000 Guest

    2003 307 3 Door XSi.
    I'm having a problem with the air bag warning lamp and also message on
    screen "Air Bag Fault". Seems to happen if I turn the steering wheel
    a little more suddenly than usual (from right to left). Any ideas?
    I'm thinking/hoping its an internally broken wire rather than needing
    to replace the ol' bag. Probably some kind of a loose electrical
    connection somewhere? Has anyone seen this problem before?
    Dan.
     
    tricky4000, Nov 12, 2007
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  2. Very common on 06 series and may apply to the 07's. The fault lies in the
    joint with the seat belt pretensioner connection which, in the 06's, is
    under each front seat. The joint has to be remade which in my local Pug
    dealers case meant solder instead of manky clips. Hope this helps but I am
    not familiar with o7's.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Nov 13, 2007
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  3. tricky4000

    tricky4000 Guest

    So the airbag light will illuminate based on something happening (or
    not happening) under my seat? That's ridiculous...and believable.
    I'm not doubting you one bit. Soldering is something I do well...so i
    guess I need to put my head down on the back floor mat and take a
    look.
    Thanks for the tip.
    Dan
     
    tricky4000, Nov 14, 2007
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  4. tricky4000

    Nigel Guest

    You won't find anything under the seat to do with airbags. The
    pretensioners are on the reels and rarely give trouble. Usually it's
    the connections to the comm 2000 unit which is the switchgear under
    the wheel, or the actual Comm 2000 itself.
    Take the shroud off under the steering wheel and check the two outer
    connections on the back of the switchgear. Pull them gently. They
    should not come off. If all is well take off the airbag and check the
    connections to it (top and bottom). If they are ok, then suspect the
    Comm. To verify you need to read the fault codes.
     
    Nigel, Nov 14, 2007
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  5. tricky4000

    tricky4000 Guest

    May I ask, what is the Comm 2000?
     
    tricky4000, Nov 14, 2007
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  6. tricky4000

    tricky4000 Guest

    May I ask, what is the Comm 2000?
     
    tricky4000, Nov 14, 2007
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  7. tricky4000

    djimbo Guest

    That's a strange one, this 'connections under the seat' has been reported on
    here about six thousand times.
    It has been about THE most reported problem on a 406.
    I've never had the problem myself, has anyone else cured this one with
    soldering up the connections?
    Or is this an urban myth??

    My favourite mysterious one was the faulty handbrake switch giving low
    brake fluid indication.. I did have that and it was the handbrake switch.

    djimbo
     
    djimbo, Nov 15, 2007
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  8. tricky4000

    Nigel Guest

    As I said, it's the switchgear under your steering wheel. It has the
    indicator and light switch, the radio remote switch and sometimes the
    cruise control.
     
    Nigel, Nov 15, 2007
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  9. tricky4000

    tricky4000 Guest

    OK...well funny you mention that as I have been having problems with
    my indicators for a long time. You know the one...when you turn right
    and spin your wheel back round the indicator automatically turns
    itself on to left. Well all that switch gear inside the steering
    wheel has become quite loose of late and as a matter of fact, the
    airbag warning light only started appearing the other day when I
    turned my wheel sharply and I heard a small crunch inside the switch
    gear.
    I will investigate on the weekend.
    Dan.
     
    tricky4000, Nov 15, 2007
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  10. tricky4000

    terra Guest

    I had the same problem of faulty airbag warning light with my 2003 406,
    garage told me it was dodgy connector under drivers seat.
     
    terra, Nov 16, 2007
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  11. Definitely not an urban myth. My Peugeot dealer soldered the joints under
    both my front seats on successive services. The problem is apparently the
    crap connectors originally used. I also thought that the reports I had
    seen of front coil springs snapping on 406's when they were parked was an
    urban myth. I changed my mind on that one last month when one of mine went
    while parked.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Nov 18, 2007
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  12. tricky4000

    Nigel Guest

    Doesn't the OT have a 307? That's what I remember and the 307 does not
    have pre-tensioners under the seat.
     
    Nigel, Nov 18, 2007
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  13. That's why my first posting made the point that I did not know the 307 but
    that the '06 series had the under seat problem. Djimbo seemed to have
    missed that point but I responded to his open question about urban myths.
    Fun ain't it?

    Keith
     
    Keith Willcocks, Nov 19, 2007
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  14. tricky4000

    Nigel Guest

    Yes I know you had it right Keith. I agree Djimbo obviously either
    didn't read from the beginning or thinks all cars have the connections
    under the seat. Not the 307 although the 407 does!!!! Future problems
    there?
     
    Nigel, Nov 20, 2007
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  15. tricky4000

    tricky4000 Guest

    So guys, is it fair to say the problem (in this case) stems from the
    switch gear in the steering wheel?
    Dan
     
    tricky4000, Nov 20, 2007
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  16. tricky4000

    Rexx Magnus Guest

    Quite possibly. I broke the rotary connector in mine when I had to
    take the wheel off to remove the dashboard. Don't know where I'm going
    to get a replacement.

    If you ever have to take the wheel off, make sure to disconnect the
    connector both inside and on the back of the wheel, then poke the
    connectors back down into the column switches before yanking it off!
     
    Rexx Magnus, Nov 20, 2007
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  17. Maybe they've improved the connectors because my 406 had problems within the
    first 18 months. 407's have been around for a bit longer than that so I
    would have expected puzzled owners to be posting on here by now.

    Keith
     
    Keith Willcocks, Nov 22, 2007
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  18. tricky4000

    djimbo Guest

    Doh(!)
    In my defence it's the way this NG shows up here in bits and bats.. with
    missing bits that show MUCH later.
    Sorry for the confusion.

    jim.
     
    djimbo, Nov 22, 2007
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