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Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Bill, Oct 15, 2003.

  1. Bill

    Bill Guest

    Hi,
    I'm wondering if anybody knows of any sites good learning meterials for
    learning about cars. Ive used the AA book of the car in the past so
    anything like this will be ideal.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 15, 2003
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  2. Bill

    Thomas Moats Guest

    Have you tried the local library or book store? Do a search with your favorite
    search engine.
     
    Thomas Moats, Oct 16, 2003
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  3. Bill

    DP Guest

    IMO the best way to learn is to buy a reasonable old car where there are
    plenty of spares at the scrap yard (i.e. a Vauxhall, Ford, Corolla, etc),
    get the right Haynes manual and do your own repairs.
     
    DP, Oct 16, 2003
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  4. Bill

    Bill Guest

    I'm looking for on line stuff really - so I can print off and go over. At
    this present time I'm not off enough to be looking around libraries.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 16, 2003
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  5. Bill

    Crouton Guest

    Crouton, Oct 16, 2003
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  6. Bill

    Conor Turton Guest

    Night course in vehicle maintenance at your local college.
     
    Conor Turton, Oct 16, 2003
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  7. Bill

    Bill Guest


    I'm a mechanic I would teaching materials.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 17, 2003
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  8. Bill

    Bill Guest

     
    Bill, Oct 17, 2003
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  9. Bill

    Thomas Moats Guest

    So just what are you looking for, and if I may ask, why?
     
    Thomas Moats, Oct 17, 2003
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  10. Bill

    Bill Guest

    I am starting to teach 10-24 years olds car maintance, in about two weeks so
    I need stuff I can print or part print, Its hands on but the idea is to
    give these guys a look at real work, we have tyre machines, wheel balancers,
    Ramps sandblasters etc! some of these guys haven't been to school so I'm
    trying to give them the skills to progress in the work place. I have been
    out of car mechanics for a couple of years - I'd been teaching other
    subjects but this opportunity come up.
    Some are still in school they are allowed a one a week to work with me, some
    have no knowledge about cars some have, one guy works in a garage on
    Mondays and will be coming to me on a Thursdays. Any learning materials
    will help from wheel changing to taking out gearboxes, engine removal. We
    also have Go-Karts which I will be responsible for getting up and running
    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 17, 2003
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    Thomas Moats Guest

    Because it is a work related expense ( tax help ), and I'm sure you do not want
    to brake copy right violations ( being the good law abiding citizen you are ),
    there are publishing houses that sells the material you need. Need to know
    where? Network the vocational schools in your area and ask questions.
     
    Thomas Moats, Oct 17, 2003
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  12. Bill

    Bill Guest

    cheers my man I was wanting to have some materials before I start. I have no
    reasons to break any laws or evade taxes (as you suggest) as the company
    will pay for anything that is needed. If you are so worried about me
    breaking such laws give me the addresses of these so called publishing
    houses that sells the material I need.

    I was hoping to get started right away.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 18, 2003
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    Thomas Moats Guest

    I would certainly hope you have material before you start a class............I
    suggested no such thing that you are looking to break or evade any laws. I
    merely suggested that you do not want to do such a thing. If you read my post I
    also gave you a possible resource to find the material you need in a legal
    fashion. Now I must ask you, do you want others to do the work you have
    contracted to do, or are you willing to do the work YOURSELF that you contracted
    to do? If you are willing to do that work, you will do as I suggested. Find
    those publishers yourself, remember they do exist. How do you think all those
    commercial Tech schools get there teaching materials? Where do you think
    community tech schools get there material? You are in the wrong place to do
    research for what you want to do. Kind of means maybe you should not be in the
    position you contracted to be in?????
     
    Thomas Moats, Oct 18, 2003
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  14. Bill

    Bill Guest

    I was looking for guidance from anybody who can give it, I haven't taught
    car mechanics (full-time) before just apprentices. Obviously I will have
    recourses before I start - I have basic stuff from my own days at college.
    But like I said at this present time I don''t have the authority to contact
    these companies for teaching materials.( I don't start just yet) I am a good
    tutor if this is were you are coming from, its just I got the chance of this
    job and its mainly hands on (as I said) and I want to introduce paper work
    and progress (in time) to proper certificates. I could sit back and let the
    jobs flow in and show the lads how to repair these, but I'm trying to make
    this my job. I am very well qualified upto a much highter level than I need
    to teach, one only need ed to be a mechanic to get the job.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 18, 2003
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    Thomas Moats Guest

    Ahhhhh,....... no you did not. But being you are contracted to instruct; you do
    have the "authority". So get your ducks in line now before your class starts.

    ( I don't start just yet) I am a good
    Good tutor? How well do you know the trade of being an automotive technician
    then? Do you know the different trades associated with being an automotive
    technician? From what I smell from your posts, I believe this "class" is a last
    ditch effort to get employment to the "drop outs". Other wise why do you not
    have the resources to do your contracted job?
    As I already said there is material just for this purpose. It is available for
    schools............you know what you say you are involved in now?
    Then it looks like you need a plan...............start planning.
    Qualified for what and what level? You mean you have a teaching certificate?
     
    Thomas Moats, Oct 18, 2003
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  16. Bill

    F.H. Guest

    Bill wrote:

    Thomas wrote:

    Bill wrote:

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    thinking of taking a course?

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    eight pounds for a course of ten.

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    half-hour?

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    Man: Look this isn't an argument.

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    Man: No it isn't, it's just contradiction.

    Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

    Man: Yes it is.

    Mr Vibrating: It is not.

    Man: It is. You just contradicted me.

    Mr Vibrating: No I didn't.

    Man: Ooh, you did!

    Mr Vibrating: No, no, no, no, no.

    Man: You did, just then.

    Mr Vibrating: No, nonsense!

    Man: Oh, look this is futile.

    Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

    Man: I came here for a good argument.

    Mr Vibrating: No you didn't, you came here for an argument.

    Man: Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.

    Mr Vibrating: It can be.

    Man: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements
    intended
    to establish a definite proposition.

    Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

    Man: Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.

    Mr Vibrating: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary
    position.

    Man: But it isn't just saying "No it isn't".

    Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

    Man: No it isn't, an argument is an intellectual process...
    contradiction
    is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

    Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

    Man: Yes it is.

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    Man: What?

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    Man: But I was just getting interested.

    Mr Vibrating: Sorry the five minutes is up.

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    Man: What!?

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    Man: I've just paid.

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    Mr Vibrating: No you haven't.

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    Man: I've had enough of this.

    Mr Vibrating: No you haven't.

    [From "Monty Python's Flying Circus: Just the Words, Volume 2", episode
    29.
     
    F.H., Oct 18, 2003
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    Conor Turton Guest

    You're not going to come up with decent coursework in two weeks. When I
    used to teach it took me at least 2hrs to prep for 3hrs worth of
    lessons.
     
    Conor Turton, Oct 18, 2003
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  18. Bill

    Conor Turton Guest

    Teach them in exactly the same way but choose a less "deep" level to go
    to.
     
    Conor Turton, Oct 18, 2003
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  19. Bill

    Bill Guest


    I have my plan I have the syllabus and I'm ready to go - amongst other
    things I have a teaching certificate - which isn't asked for in the job
    discription.
    You are not listening - All I need for the job is a couple of customers cars
    (which I have) I am trying to introduce certificates that are not given at
    this present time - Like I said before I could sit back and let things flow.
    I don't have to teach these guys how to repair fully this would take far
    longer then I have them.
    Whats your background? you seem to have jumped on your high horse - I asked
    a couple of question so I could start I'm not here to be put down.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 18, 2003
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  20. Bill

    Bill Guest

    cheers conor, I agree: I have a syllabus, which starts with health and
    safety, I have 10 weeks of lesson plans I only have then 12 weeks. I do have
    backup stuff, but I feel I want to improve on what the other guy use to
    teach/instruct, he retired and I could use his old notes but I feel they are
    a little dated. some of these lads haven't been to school for years so I
    have the job of getting them up to speed, Ive interveiwed them so I know
    their backgrounds some have even been in garages before they come to me, My
    job is to teach them time keeping, customer care, etc! I am trying to
    introduce a couple of more things that the lads will find interesting.

    bill
     
    Bill, Oct 18, 2003
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