Brakes failing on 1974 504D

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Paraguay2, May 29, 2008.

  1. Paraguay2

    Paraguay2 Guest

    Hi. I live in the US.

    I took my beloved 1974 504D four door to the local gas station
    mechanic, after the brake pedal began to get a bit stiff and the
    brakes stopped working as well as they should (to the point where it
    would take 2 or 3 times as long in terms of distance to come to a
    stop).

    The mechanic does not get any other Peugeot's besides mine, but has
    worked on mine before. He said he thinks the "air pressure" pump is
    failing and I need to buy a new one from Paris.

    Someone else (over Internet) has told me that it needs a "vacuum
    pump". Someone at a Peugeot parts store in Spain (who I reached
    through a friend that lives there) said that it actually needs a
    "replacement water pump" (that doesn't make ANY sense).

    Any ideas/suggestions?

    Jerome
     
    Paraguay2, May 29, 2008
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  2. Paraguay2

    G.T Guest

    Hello,
    From what you wrote above, it may well be the vacuum pump, used to create
    the depression for the powerbraking (aka Mastervac). First check the belt
    (and I assume it's OK) and the couple of pipes.
    Then look for a pump.

    HTH,
     
    G.T, May 29, 2008
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  3. Paraguay2

    Chris Guest

    May be he needs a water pump for his car and your going to pay for it
    hahahaha
     
    Chris, May 30, 2008
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  4. Paraguay2

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Eeer, well, no, I won't pay for that :)
    I guess there was a misunderstanding between "vacuum" and "water", or
    something.
    I'll add this kind of vacuum pumps (belt-driven & membrane type) was very
    common because the only one type fit until the beginning of the 90's, which
    doesn't make it easier to source in northern America - though being the same
    than on 505's, which was the most sold Pug in the USA*.

    * and even the very first TD ever produced were reserved for export in the
    USA, partly because of the NYC & LA cabs market won by the 505 TD in 1979,
    resulting in something like 5-6k units. May well be one of, if not the cause
    for the EPA rules change in 1983, too.

    Regards,
     
    G.T, May 30, 2008
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  5. Paraguay2

    Julian Guest

    In the UK the membrane (diaphragm) was available as a spare part - not
    difficult to change and cheap.

    Julian.
     
    Julian, Jun 1, 2008
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  6. Paraguay2

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    It seems it was the case in France too, the fixing kit (membrane, bolts and
    some other stuff) was available at least at Pug's under P/N 4599.11 (for
    models until Jan 1984) or 4599.24 (beyond 01/84).

    Il could well be a pain to source in the US, though.

    Regards,
     
    G.T, Jun 1, 2008
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    Bob Minchin Guest

    Possibly best to source it in Europe esp France/UK. Posting it to US
    should be cheap enough.

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Jun 1, 2008
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  8. Paraguay2

    Paraguay2 Guest

    It seems that this was a belt-drive vacuum pump after all.
    I was able to convince a friend of mine to purchase this part.
    I left it with the mechanic this morning -- hopefully it will not cost
    too much to actually do the work.

    Now I am left with possibly replacing the "seals" in the engine and/or
    oil pan, as the car is leaking about a quart of oil per week. Any
    suggestions?
     
    Paraguay2, Jun 9, 2008
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  9. Paraguay2

    Keith W Guest

    Check the leak is not from the oil pressure switch. I have had several
    leak on different cars.
     
    Keith W, Jun 10, 2008
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