Broken Keyfobs

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by razzleuk, Aug 5, 2004.

  1. razzleuk

    razzleuk Guest

    Hi All

    I have engineered a simple fix to the common "keyfob drains battery in
    48 hours" problem that affects at least a lot of 306 owners and
    perhaps owners of other models.

    I discovered that an afflicted keyfob was drawing 4mA with no buttons
    pressed hence the horrendous battery drain! There is a electronic fix
    - modifying the button switch connections to only connect the battery
    to the circuit when the button is pressed - hence defeating the failed
    component and associated battery drain - works a treat on my 97 DTurbo
    (2 button fob). The only downside is that to activate the second
    button - you have to press the first one first. I have never used the
    secondary button so it isnt an issue to me!

    I hereby offer to mod peoples fobs for 25 notes - Peugeot charge about
    80 quid for a new fob. You'd not have any recoding to be done or
    anything - would you be interested? If so reply and we can negotiate
    offline..

    Raz.
     
    razzleuk, Aug 5, 2004
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  2. razzleuk

    Mindwipe Guest

    second button (ir type) arms alarm and sets deadlocks so why pray tell
    aint you using it (cos its worth it for the deadlocks at least)
     
    Mindwipe, Aug 5, 2004
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  3. razzleuk

    razzleuk Guest

    I am working on a complete solution to enable normal second button
    operation.. Will post progress on this early next week.

    Raz.

    ps. My car doesn't have an alarm and you're right I should be using
    the deadlocks but have never bothered.. :)
     
    razzleuk, Aug 6, 2004
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  4. razzleuk

    Mindwipe Guest

    btw pug reckoned it was static causing probs with the cmos chip inside
    is this true then?
     
    Mindwipe, Aug 6, 2004
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  5. razzleuk

    razzleuk Guest

    It would certainly appear one of the ICs has failed. Connecting the
    fob up to a power supply showed that it was pulling 4mA with no button
    pressed! However the failure does not prevent the fob from operating -
    as you know they work fine whilst the battery lasts. This is why
    actually switching in the battery with the button press is an
    effective solution..
     
    razzleuk, Aug 7, 2004
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  6. razzleuk

    G.T Guest

    Hi Jeff,
    Oh, the old CMOS thyristor-lock side effect. I thought it was just old
    stuff, and that we got rid of this annoyance with more recent chips.
    Usual solution is to use two diodes : 1 between input & VDD, the other
    between input & VSS. For this use (low power) I'd recommend signal diodes
    like 1n4148 (possibly available as SMD).
     
    G.T, Aug 7, 2004
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