Bulbs blowing

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Neil, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Hi,

    I believe I have a strange electrical fault on my peugeot 406 HDI
    Rapier, 2002.

    Twice within the last 6 months I have had to replace both dipped beam
    bulbs. On both occasions both bulbs failed at EXACTLY the same time - on
    starting the engine. The auto-light feature should turn the lights on
    automatically, but neither come on. Checking the bulbs shows that the
    filaments are open circuit.

    Any ideas, anyone?

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Jan 18, 2006
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  2. Neil

    Alec Guest

    Could be over voltage, use a digital voltmeter (less than a fiver from a
    cheap shop) and check that the battery voltage is about 14 when the engine
    is running at 2000 revs per min. It should be reasonably steady.

    Over 14.5 is definatly too high even for a moment.

    Less than 13.5 is low unless you have a heavy load on or have only just
    started up or have a flat battery. Check again without a heavy load or after
    a few mins charge.

    Alec
     
    Alec, Jan 18, 2006
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  3. Neil

    Jeff Guest

    autolight feature ????

    am i missing something ?

    Regards Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 18, 2006
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  4. I think he means the clever gadget that turns the lights on when it gets
    dark. My early 406 uses the more reliable method of "driver can't see".
    ;o)
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jan 18, 2006
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  5. Neil

    Jeff Guest


    ahh, mines a 2001 so i guess it came in after

    Regards Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 18, 2006
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  6. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Jeff -"Autolight feature" = possibly clumsy way of saying the Automatic
    Lighting - you know, when it gets dark, the lights automatically come on.

    Alec - Thanks for the tip. Am I correct in thinking that all electrics
    are supplied from the battery rather than the alternator, and that the
    alternator is simply there to charge the battery?

    Also, I should point out that as regards over-voltage none of the other
    bulbs have blown. I agree that there must be some sort of long-term
    "spike" of over voltage produced somewhere.

    I have just (today) replaced both bulbs, I'll make a note of the date
    and see how long these last! Could just be some bizarre coincidence, but
    the odds must be tremendous.

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Jan 18, 2006
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  7. Neil

    Jeff Guest

    I have just replaced both my dip bulbs ( one had failed ) and whilst doing a
    search to find which type it was I came across a couple of references to
    both bulbs failing more or less together.

    btw due to work commitments I got mine from halfrauds and when I offered my
    debit card they just amputated a couple of limbs :-(

    Regards Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 18, 2006
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  8. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Hi Jeff, where were these references?

    This set, and the last, were from Halfords - £15 the pair (477's). May
    be worth my while splashing out on some more expensive bulbs next time,
    the last lot did not last long - <6months I reckon.

    Regards,

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Jan 18, 2006
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  9. Neil

    Alec Guest

    In principle you are correct, all electrics are fed from the battery which
    is in turn charged by the alternator when the engine is running.

    The alternator is permanently connected to the battery. (even when the
    ignition is off)

    If the alternator is faulty then excess voltage can reach everything.

    There have been problems with lamp failure on some makes of car following
    the introduction of the newer BUS wiring systems. Commonly the brake
    lights.

    Personally in a case like this I would buy new bulbs from the local Lucas
    service depot, they are usually very good for any of the Lucas, Bosch,
    Girling, CAV items. The last time I bought brake shoes they were one third
    of the Peugeot price for the identical (Girling) item.

    Alec
     
    Alec, Jan 19, 2006
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  10. Neil

    Jeff Guest


    dunno now it was a google groups search, but I did change both, bought the
    super dooper extreme thingys at about £17 on BOGOF , thought it was worth
    the extra 2 quid over the normal ones especially as I had found a place that
    does normal bulbs at £20 for 10

    Regards Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 20, 2006
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