Diesel Cats, can they become clogged?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by brian, Sep 13, 2004.

  1. brian

    brian Guest

    My HDI 90 (actually in a Xsara) doesn't want to rev over 4000, and the fuel
    consumption is rather worse than I had expected. It pulles really well at
    lower revs, far better than the 1.9 TD in my old 405.
    It was serviced, according to the manual, 3000 miles ago by a main agent, so
    I assume that all the filters are OK, certainly the air filter is as I have
    checked. It has done 40,000 miles.
    I know from previous experience with marine engines that a clogged exhaust
    on a diesel can give this symptom, but I can find no reference to any
    maintenance on the cat, though the early information from PSA on the HDI
    engine said that they had a special fluid which was injected into the cat at
    certain intervals to burn off the particles trapped there.
    Can anyone enlighten me please?
    Brian.
     
    brian, Sep 13, 2004
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  2. brian

    jim. Guest

    Hi Brian.
    Can't help with the query, I'm wondering about that diesel cat myself.
    Word on the street is... You can take it out, or more specificaly buy a
    straight through pipe without compromising the UK MOT.
    I would have thought getting to it to inject anything would be tricky to say
    the least.
    The only problem I've encountered was a holed pipe directly in
    front of the cat, which looked like a possible blocked cat causing back
    pressure.
    Fitting a new one didn't give any noticable performance increase though.
    Erm...... 4000RPM? Doesn't that equate to over 105MPH in top?
    All the diesels I've owned ran out of steam around 4K RPM
    I've never felt the urge to push mine (HDi90) past 3K in the gears
    there doesn't seem to be anything to gain.by it.
    Is it possible that your pump governer has been set at 4K RPM?
    ie. will it rev past there in neutral?
    The fuel consumption on this 406 HDi is much better than my old 406TD
    though, (It's about 50mpg the same as my old 405 normaly aspirated diesel)
    so you may have a problem somewhere, If it is actualy worse than your 405.


    jim.
     
    jim., Sep 14, 2004
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  3. brian

    Mindwipe Guest

    as a rule if it has this system and becomes blocked it will tell you on the
    inst panel because it incorporates up and downstream pressure sensors
    so i suspect that yours is just a cat and yes they can get blocked
     
    Mindwipe, Sep 14, 2004
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  4. brian

    brian Guest

    Can anything be done if the cat is blocked? I suspect that the car has just
    done the shop run daily which does cause crud to build up in any exhaust,
    but the cat would not self clean so easily.
     
    brian, Sep 14, 2004
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  5. brian

    Mindwipe Guest

    to be fair you need to establish that this the problem and not some other
    fault
     
    Mindwipe, Sep 14, 2004
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  6. brian

    Lostin1999 Guest

    if its just the exhaust a run to the limiter through the gears would soon
    clear it out!! (aka Italian tune up)

    (only once up to temp though)

    HTH

    Lost
     
    Lostin1999, Sep 14, 2004
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  7. brian

    brian Guest

    Bit difficult when it won't rev over 4000 on load.
     
    brian, Sep 15, 2004
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  8. brian

    brian Guest

    What other fault could it be, I'm open to all suggestions.
     
    brian, Sep 15, 2004
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  9. brian

    Mindwipe Guest

    bit of a noisy option but you could try it with the front pipe disconnected
     
    Mindwipe, Sep 15, 2004
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  10. brian

    Mindwipe Guest

    also check air filter fuel filter etc
     
    Mindwipe, Sep 15, 2004
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  11. brian

    Mindwipe Guest

    also how high is the milage
    did the main agent fit a timing belt ,has the belt been mistimed/??
     
    Mindwipe, Sep 15, 2004
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  12. brian

    brian Guest

    It has now done 40,000 and there has been no change of timing belt AFAIK.
    Last service was at 36k by main agent. Air filter definitely new, have not
    checked the fuel filter yet. Pollen filter should also have been changed,
    and the one in there looked as if it was as old as the car! No wonder the
    ventilation didn't work.
    Not sure about running it without the down pipe connected, ran out of ear
    plugs yesterday.
     
    brian, Sep 16, 2004
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  13. brian

    Mindwipe Guest

    i know its noisy but i have done it
    having said that i'm a maniac
     
    Mindwipe, Sep 16, 2004
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