greenstuf/brembo 406

Hi again

I m due to new brake pads on my 406 HDI
since i find my brakes have a lot of brake fading ( i.e. braking hard
makes them work diminished for a short period ) I want to
use the green stuff or the brembo pads on my front brakes the thing is
i don't have experience with them on a 406 so if anyone can give some
thoughtful info it would be greatly appreciated

EBC green stuff are made of some kevlar component which reduce the
fading

I have a little tendency to go to brembo (donowhy) though i cant find
then in an online catalogue.

another thing, does anyone know a good selling point for either one of
them over here in holland

greetings

Marc

 

Hi again

Green Stuff aren't good enough for a car that heavy, you'd need Red Stuff.

 

i.m afraid the red stuff needs to heat up to much before they do their
work properly ( i had them on my 305) though i'm wel aware the damn
thing weights over 1500KG

thanx for the input!

 

I've used green and redstuff for my 206 and I dont rate those pads at all.
You can try the Ferodo DS2500 or even DS3000 if u want more but they eat at
your discs plus have lots of dust but who cares as they are good pads! haha
Also a lot of ppl say the Mintex M1144 is pretty good.

Jim

 

Marc

Green are fine on my 405, but thats only 1050kg and 90bhp, Red Stuff will
work just fine on a 406, i'm 100% certain of this, i've also heard good
things about Mintex M1144's (if thats the right name). The Green would
overheat and crumble on a 406, without a doubt.

 

ferodo DS3000, on a road car? what do you do with it cannonball runs
or so


do you know what new disc's will cost on a 406....it's not that i
drive a 406 that i'm the richest man on earth i'm afraid. And the
other thing... a 406 is NOT ( by far) a fast cornering car so i won't
do rally sprints with it
I just need brake pads that do not or do less fade, and brake like
hell
AND are longer lasting than race pads

mintex hmm. rostbeef stuff on a frog car...


interesting discussion though

 

I do have a little compound left on the pads so lets await the outcom
of the discusion

I see your point though,

anyone know what make mercedis use on their heavyweights

 

To sort brake fade ont he 406 u need uprated disks, ive had the same problem
and tries green stuff first, made it worse

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so how did you sort it out...

 

Hello,

Errr, one of the Bosch / Girling / Bendix brands

 

Hello Marc,

I don't like reading things like "try these pads", as braking is a too
serious topic to me. Sure you agree.
You complain about fading. My best advice would be to stick to original
equipment pads, or try something equivalent (Bosch must do some, as Valeo
(or Marchall)). I don't trust EBC, I don't know why, perhaps 'cause a lot of
driving muppets (phat rims & co) use them and find them far better (so I'm
dubtious).
My ranking for pads (considering it's a 406, not known as a badly braked
car) :
- Original, or Valeo / Marchall ;
- Brembo ;
- Anything else.

 

Drilled and groved disks on the front, also made the pads last a hell of
alot longer to.

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so what make disc's and what make pads, as you probably know there are
many on the market.. that is why i posted these questions in the first
place.
i want to make my discision on many opinions

 

i use green stuff pads on my 306 and whilst i can't say they brake loads
better i get virtually no dust on my alloys so i that respect they are
better for sure. The tarox sport discs haven't warped unlike the pug ones (3
sets in one year!).

 

hm like pug so to say

 

My question was referring to a 406 with EBC or Brembo and sure braking
is the most serious thing on a car ( after you got speed that is).

it also stated that i tned to lean towards brembo since i got them now
on my old 305 ( XUD9 365.000 KM )wich had brake problems since i had
it and the brembo pads sorted it out. i'm just curious about using
them on a heavy weight car.

I see your scepsis about the ones using ECB ore any other
"racing"brand. I also don't fancy the Vatanen, Gronholm, Schlesser
wanabee's on the open road and so far i've not heard about anyone
using the mentioned brands on a big car such as the 406.
however i value their opinions in the way that at least they wont have
fading on their light weight cars.

it is to bad they don't have the FIA class B any more and use a 406
for it....i'd say they would have their brakes sorted out

if you have a broadband connection try a search on the kazaa network
for


climbdance ari vatanen

one of the last proper class B cars, and one of the most impressive
piece of driving i've ever seen



Grrrzz

Marc

 

got a link as well

http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Course de Pikes Peak (Ari Vatanen).mpeg

 

Hello,

So we agree on this point !

May worth a try : keep in mind that Brembo brakes are fit to 406 Coupés.

C'mon, it's like having fire on rear drums, on a less than 1-ton car, with
virtually no brake at rear...

I don't have that here :-(

65MB it is - I donwloaded it, it costed me a lot some years ago.

I totally agree for driving, unfortunately it just lasts 5 minutes :-(
BTW, the car used (405T16 "Pikes Peak") is a Pikes-Peaks specific car, I
could give you specs, but nothing really common with '87 PP where 205 Evo2
"Pikes Peak" (550HP engines) were used.

 

Ill find out, cant remember now

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Hi,

I guess it's the case. You know, there aren't 50 brands, so they always are
the same