HDI Starting Problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Simon, Feb 27, 2004.

  1. Simon

    Simon Guest

    I am having a problem, with my 406 hdi (90) V reg. First start of the
    day its ok but after that it become more difficult the hotter the
    engine gets.
    The glow plugs light on the dash comes on the on initial start of the
    day but after that it appears not to come on even when cold and the
    starting become more difficult, until I think it will never start and
    pump the throttle at the same time as turning the engine over and it
    will catch.
    It has been into my local dealers, who reported the exhaust
    recirculating valve and the
    ECU are gone.
    I have changed the recirculating valve and sent off the ECU to be
    Reconditioned, it came back with a report that No faults were found,
    put it back on the car and its still the same.
    Peugeot want £611 for a new ECU plus the best part of £200 to
    programme it with my immobiliser code and fit.
    What do I do, was thinking of having ECU checked by a second company
    and see what they come up with, but what if they say its OK what then?
    Any Help will be appreciated. Thanks Simon
     
    Simon, Feb 27, 2004
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    Peter Guest

    I was under the impression that DI engines did't need, and therefore
    didn't have glow plugs - I've certainly never noticed a glow plug
    light on the dash of my DDI for the last four years - could it be a
    different lamp that you see - possibly coolant level?


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    Peter

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    Peter, Feb 28, 2004
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    Rick Maninov Guest

    Mmmmmmmmmm..... Mines got one, it's a 92 Hdi (90)
    Lights up for about a second on first cold start.
    Which HDi model you got without a glow light?

    Rick.
     
    Rick Maninov, Feb 29, 2004
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  4. Simon

    Rick Maninov Guest

    Oh Ok, it's a 2002 model.
    It's just my remaining brain cell stuck in the nineties.

    Rick.
     
    Rick Maninov, Feb 29, 2004
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    Marc Guest

    Thats the best excuse I heard since the ninties ;-)
     
    Marc, Feb 29, 2004
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  6. I drive a VW Caddy at work, with a 1.9 litre TDI engine (90hp). It
    definately has glow plugs. The light won't light up much if outside
    temperature is above 0C, but when it's -10C it lights up for several
    seconds and starting is very rough if I don't what to the light goes
    out.
     
    Jens Kr. Kirkebø, Feb 29, 2004
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    Peter Guest

    2000 110
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    Peter

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    Peter, Feb 29, 2004
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  8. Simon

    Rick Maninov Guest

    Only difference is the 110Hp motor then, maybe they don't have em.
    I have seen a couple of 90s, one from around 1999, and they do..
    Although the manual is famous for having the whole lot labeled wrongly ;-)

    Rick
     
    Rick Maninov, Feb 29, 2004
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    G.T Guest

    Hello,
    They should have glow plugs, but they are useful on cold weather & cold
    start (i.e these 2conditions at the same time). I don't have the time to see
    the glow plugs indicator on my parent's 206, but that's true I'm not that
    used to information / warning light with that car :)
     
    G.T, Feb 29, 2004
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    DervMan Guest


    Most DIs don't need glowplugs until it's proper-cold... but it varies
    according to the engine and even that install.

    Long gone are the days when you'd get in to a new car, turn to position two,
    put your seat belt on, then wait a moment for the glowplug warning lamp to
    go out.... :)

    Even now I still occasionally put our (petrol, non-Peugeot) car's ignition
    to position two, put my seatbelt on, and then start. It doesn't help that
    the amber ABS lamp lights up just like many glowplug warning lamps did....
     
    DervMan, Mar 7, 2004
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  11. Not so. I drive a 2002 model Volkswagen with a 90hk TDI engine. Even
    if it's only -5C (23F) I have to let the glow plugs work at least 3-4
    seconds before I can start it easily.
     
    Jens Kr. Kirkebø, Mar 7, 2004
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  12. Simon

    DervMan Guest

    Three or four seconds? Shoot, some of the cars I've driven took that long
    when warm...

    It takes me a few seconds to put my seatbelt on too (maybe four I suppose).
     
    DervMan, Mar 7, 2004
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