heater problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by James T, Dec 20, 2004.

  1. James T

    James T Guest

    I have a 306 (N). But the heaters don't seem to be working properly. The
    de-mister doesn't blow hot air at all, only cold and the blowers into the
    car only blow slightly warm. I have changed the thermostat as it was stuck
    open and completeley flushed out the entire system, refilled and bled. Any
    ideas what the problem could be? Any thoughts would be greatly recieved.
     
    James T, Dec 20, 2004
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    davek Guest

    Possibly air lock in system. If not, the heater matrix might be blocked with
    gunge or the ventilator baffles not operating properly.
    I'd try to dislodge the air bubble-it's the cheapest option.
    Davek
     
    davek, Dec 20, 2004
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    Adrian Sims Guest

    Hi there,

    Sorry to hijack the thread but I have recently had the same problem (again
    on a 306 N reg)

    I also changed the thermostat and found that it was faulty.

    How do you bleed the system to remove air locks, any defined procedure?

    Many thanks

    Adrian
     
    Adrian Sims, Dec 20, 2004
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    davek Guest

    Garages have a pressure vessel which they attach to the reservoir filler
    neck and force coolant right through the system.
    The secret is to have a supply of coolant at a higher level than the highest
    point in the system. A big plastic bottle held up high and supplying coolant
    via a piece of hosepipe tightly fitted into the top hose of the system can
    do the job.
    My old Renault 21 had little hand operated valves in the top hose and heater
    hose which ensured all the air was out.
    In a troublesome case you might try removing the pressure cap and allowing
    the engine to run till it's so hot the fans cut in and the coolant boils out
    of the reservoir.Might bring the air bubble out with it.
    Daft innit,- in the search for efficiency bonnet heights get lower and lower
    and you can't have a big tall radiator anymore, which didn't create these
    problems.
    DaveK.
     
    davek, Dec 21, 2004
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    Nik&Andy Guest

    I believe the correct procedure is to get an old empty coke bottle and cut
    the bottom off it, then stick it upside down (filler neck first) into the
    coolant vessel and fill the coke bottle up, this gives enough of a header to
    fill the system completely.
    I read about this problem and fix in car mechanics magazine several years
    ago, cant remember if they used anything the seal the bottle though.

    You could write to them though?
    http://www.carmechanicsmag.co.uk/

    Andy
     
    Nik&Andy, Dec 21, 2004
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    Dave English Guest

    It is in the HBOL too!
    They make a good enough fit as is.

    The it is just a matter of loosening the bleed screw(s) till coolant
    flows, closing them, running the engine up to temp, massaging the fat
    hoses & repeating ad nauseam (well until no more air from bleeds)

    What could be easier :-^)
     
    Dave English, Dec 21, 2004
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    Neil D Guest

    HI James, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I had exactly the same
    symptoms on my 306 (sold now) last year, with the air being cold on the
    screen and luke warm on the vents (centre ones, not so much on the side
    ones). I turned out to be my heater matrix leaking slightly. I lost no water
    and water going in an out by the bulkhead were boiling. I had to have to
    matrix changed. The labour is the expensive bit here, the part costs about
    £50, but the labour for me was £250. The problem being the dash has to come
    out. If you feel really competant and have a couple of free days over
    Christmas, you could maybe give it a go yourself. I didn't because I was
    afraid to take the airbag off, but I've taken it off since and it's no
    problem. Haynes manual covers the lot,

    Hope it helps, and sorry to dissappoint,

    Neil
     
    Neil D, Dec 21, 2004
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    wolves Guest

    had similar problem with my 405 diesel,after several trips to garage to
    have the system bled,and stat changed which made no difference.was told to
    check the flaps were opening fully, and to check for a blocked matrix.flaps
    could be heard to be opening and closing so went for the matrix
    option.before going to garage i took the dash off and replaced it when the
    car came back saved them time and me money,verdict A BLOCKED MATRIX cost
    about £40.inside temp now about 55*c.
     
    wolves, Jan 5, 2005
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