Idle speed

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by species8350, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    ref. Pug 205 1.6 GTI

    When I start my car from cold the idle speed is about 1300RPM.

    After a while the idle speed drops (ca 1000RPM).

    But when the car has been running for some time the idle speed is back
    at about 1300RPM.

    The car runs well.

    Any advice on how to get a normal idle speed ca 1000RPM

    Thanks
     
    species8350, Oct 17, 2009
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  2. species8350

    Bob Minchin Guest

    Clean, or ultimately change the idle control valve. After high mileage
    these valves get sticky around the normal operating point.

    I would expect your correct idle speed to be about 850rpm

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Oct 17, 2009
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  3. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    Thanks for the advice,

    I cannot find a reference in the workshop manual for the 'idle control
    valve'

    Where can I locate it?

    Thanks

    Best wishes

    S
     
    species8350, Oct 22, 2009
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  4. species8350

    Bob Minchin Guest

    Sorry I don't have a 205. On my 405 it is right on top of the engine and
    easy to spot. Functionally it provides a controlled air bypass round the
    throttle butterfly usually connected by hoses about 30mm diameter.

    This is my 405 one
    http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n313/9fingersphotos/IdleControlValve.jpg

    Sometimes these are mistakenly called "stepper motors" but rarely are
    true stepper motors.

    You can see some other examples by searching for "Idle control valve" on
    ebay
    current showing 633 but curiously none for a 205?

    Sorry I can't be more specific

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Oct 22, 2009
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  5. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    Ok,

    Thanks for responding.

    I suppose a clean will involve dismantling. Or is there a quick and
    dirty way?

    If the valve needed to be replaced, would that be an expensive job if
    carried out by a garage.

    Thanks

    S
     
    species8350, Oct 23, 2009
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  6. species8350

    Bob Minchin Guest

    Yes you will have to dismantle to remove the valve - depending on where
    it is.
    I keep a spare in the car tucked under the drivers seat and swap mine in
    about 1 minute with no tools as it goes through periods of misbehaviour.

    Looking at the history of your postings, I think you need to decide if
    the garage is going to maintain your car or you are going to do it
    yourself via advice here.

    Firstly find your valve and determine how easy or otherwise it is to
    remove, then price up a new one and thirdly decide if you are going to
    do the job or pay someone else.
    Sorry to be blunt but .....

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Oct 23, 2009
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  7. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    As far a self-maintenance or garage repairs are concerned, this will
    be mix and match depending upon the charges and the ease of repair.

    Aren't we all in this position

    Best wishes

    S
     
    species8350, Oct 24, 2009
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