Key copied for pug 405 cheaper than dealer (remote built in)

Discussion in 'Peugeot 405' started by Greg, Jan 19, 2007.

  1. Greg

    Greg Guest

    remote locking original key, need duplicate, peugeot want a days
    salary, anyone know of a place in the uk can copy one?
     
    Greg, Jan 19, 2007
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  2. Hi Greg,

    I know a locksmith in Bolton Lancs that can do it but he will need to program
    the ECU to match the transponder code for the new key. My understanding is
    that the transponder in the original key can not be copied. I found this guy
    in the yellow pages, might be worth a try.

    Regards Dave G
     
    Dave G via CarKB.com, Jan 20, 2007
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  3. Greg

    Bob Minchin Guest

    I don't think 405s use a transponder. My 95 model does not.

    The problem will be the IR section of the remote and getting programmed to
    match the car.
    I think it is a straight choice between day's salary or use the mechanical
    key in the drivers door just like we always used to!

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Jan 20, 2007
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  4. Sorry didn't realise it was a 405. I think I would use the mechanical method !


     
    Dave G via CarKB.com, Jan 20, 2007
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  5. You could get the key cut at a locksmiths and the use this site if it is
    just the IR that needs programming
    http://www.peugeotdiesel.com/Program_Keys.html
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jan 20, 2007
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  6. Greg

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Eeer, if it uses the old-type separate remote (from Neiman), it's based on
    the Philips TEA5500. The code is hard-coded thru voltage levels on E1-E10
    inputs, a look at the PCB is fast & effective : both + and GND comes at the
    same time, the net is drilled to select voltage by cutting one (or both for
    Hi-Z) of them. In this case, just solder / cut similar tracks, check for R &
    C values (oscillator freq) and that should be all.

    Regards,
     
    G.T, Jan 20, 2007
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  7. Greg

    Greg Guest

    Thanks for the tips guys,

    It isn't a seperate remote, the remote is built into the key and is the
    same as in most 106's and 306's. I don't know if it's possible somehow
    to 'recode' a 2nd hand key? It's the infa red type. I can't simply
    lock the door as the remote arms the alarm, locking the door doesn't.
    Plus I like things to work. A spare key that won't diarm the car isn't
    any good sadly ;-)

    Greg.
     
    Greg, Jan 23, 2007
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  8. The infra red key plip is easily programmed. Instructions are on this
    site:
    http://www.peugeotdiesel.com/Program_Keys.html
    --
    Keith Willcocks
    (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)



     
    Keith Willcocks, Jan 24, 2007
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  9. Greg

    Bob Minchin Guest

     
    Bob Minchin, Jan 24, 2007
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    Keith Willcocks, Jan 25, 2007
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  11. Greg

    Greg Guest

    My keys I think are the later transponder type, they have one 'plastic'
    button in the IR fob, not the ones with 2 buttons with the rubber
    covers.

    So I think the 106 method (N reg 106 had same key) may work:

    "106 PLIP PROGRAMMING

    1. Unlock the vehicle using the working key.

    2. Press the LOCK button 2 times within 20 seconds."

    My next question, now it seems keys can be programmed easily, is....

    Where do I buy a blank transponder key so my local cutter can cut it
    and I can program it?????

    Greg.
     
    Greg, Jan 25, 2007
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  12. Greg

    Greg Guest

    Okay I have switched my brain on. First I found this, new blank key
    and transponder remote body for £30:
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNCUT-PEUGEOT...5QQihZ019QQcategoryZ10406QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Then I saw lots of 2nd hand keys for sale, as they don't fit the cars I
    figured you must be able to get blank key blades to fit into the
    housing - you can for a fiver:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-X-PEUGEOT-R...5QQihZ013QQcategoryZ10406QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    So now I just find an old 405 key, may even have one, fit the new
    blade, and hope the 106 procedure programs it and I don't have any
    transponder trouble......

    If anyone has programed a single button 1996 peugeot key before please
    feel free to comment!

    Greg.
     
    Greg, Jan 25, 2007
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  13. Greg

    Bob Minchin Guest

    Bob Minchin, Jan 25, 2007
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  14. Greg

    Nigel Guest

    I think you'll find that you can NOT programme 405 plips. You have to
    buy a key from a dealer and provide the dealer with the number that is
    printed on a small piece of paper in the original key or in the
    receiver unit in the roof console. 306 and 106 keys work on a
    different system.
     
    Nigel, Jan 25, 2007
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  15. Greg

    Greg Guest

    Which makes me wonder why they sell so well on ebay for good money, if
    you can't program them?????
     
    Greg, Feb 8, 2007
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