Leaking Radiator - 205td

Discussion in 'Peugeot 205' started by Clive, May 30, 2004.

  1. Clive

    Clive Guest

    Hi,

    I damaged the radiator on my 1991 205 turbo diesel whilst changing the
    starter motor. Currently it is leaking coolant into a bowl at about 100ml /
    hour. Does the group suggest using something like Radweld or is a new
    radiator required. Prices for the TD are expensive (unlike the other
    models) - £100-£140.

    In any case the coolant will be flushed. Does anyone know the ratio of
    water/anti-freeze and the capacity of the cooling system? I have read that
    changing the coolant is not trival, requiring bleeding as the engine warms
    and adding coolant accordingly to avoid air pockets.

    Thanks,

    Clive
     
    Clive, May 30, 2004
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  2. Clive

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
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    That's a pity.
    IMO, new radiator needed, as Radweld doesn't make miracles. I guess you
    really shagged your rad, and runaway is too important.
    I've heard TD rads were specific. It could explain that.
    No need of ratio as long as you take "ready to use" coolant. I guess no one
    uses distilled or tap water with antifreeze additive since 15 years.
    Capacity of the cooling circuit : approx. 8.3l.
    True.
     
    G.T, May 30, 2004
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  3. Clive

    Dave Guest

    Do NOT use Radweld - when I tried it, it didn't stop the leak but did
    block the radiator to the point that I had to replace it anyway.

    FWIW, I use one of two techniques with radiators:
    1. Barrs Leaks seems to work well with small leaks; I used it several
    times without any problems, even leaving it in the coolant for months.
    2. For larger leaks, no chemical sealant seems to work. If you want to
    go to the trouble; remove the radiator, dry it off & lay it flat. Find
    the exact position of the leak, and put masking tape underneath the leak
    for several inches around. Pour resin around the leak to make a solid
    block about 4-5 cm across the full depth of the radiator. I've done that
    with no more leaks and no noticeable loss of cooling effect. OTOH, it's
    a lot of work to do it properly, and unless you really want to save
    money I'd get either an exchange unit or one from a scrappy. I've used
    http://www.parts4peugeot.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_205__28.html
    before; they seem fairly reasonable.
    Dave
     
    Dave, May 31, 2004
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  4. Clive

    Phil Cook Guest

    I remember that being a bit of a sod to get out. It looked like it
    ought to come out downwards but it won't go past the sump and
    radiator, so you have to swing the power steering reservoir out of the
    way and take it out upwards.
    A temporary fix would be chewing gum :) I once drove from Birmingham
    to London with a pack of Wrigleys bunging a major hole. I topped up
    with plain water as soon as the coolant level warning came on and
    refilled the 5l container of water in the boot at the first
    opportunity after each fill. I think I only had to top up twice. At
    this time of year you can get away with plain water but don't use it
    too long as the antifreeze contains anti-corrosives and plain water
    will contain solutes that could damage your engine.
    IIRC there are bleed screws in all the appropriate places.
     
    Phil Cook, May 31, 2004
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  5. Clive

    Jon Florijn Guest

    The reason why TD radiators are expensive, is because they are so big in
    comparison to other 205's. I had an XAD before and built in a turbodiesel
    engine. It was cooled by a radiator from a GTI, which is slightly smaller.
    http://home.tiscali.nl/jonflorijn/jon/pics/radiateur/rad2.jpg

    The one on the left is of a Dturbo. I tried to swap them because the Dturbo
    was leaking water. But the mounting holes on the underside didn't match, so
    that's different from other 205's as well. I couldn't find another radiator
    and a new one was way too expensive, so I had mine fixed by a professional
    radiator company. This costed only ?60,-. A new radiator was about ?150,-.

    Maybe that's an option for you too.

    Good luck anyway.

    Greets, Jon.
     
    Jon Florijn, May 31, 2004
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