Oil level 206 1.4

Discussion in 'Peugeot 206' started by Blunt Pencil, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. Blunt Pencil

    Blunt Pencil Guest

    Hi, I have a 05 plate 1.4 206 SW with 16k on it and today decided to
    give it an oil and filter change.

    All went well until I refilled the oil and was looking at the dashboard
    gauge to see if I had put enough in.

    Only 4 lights were on so I kept on filling and started getting worried
    when the whole 5 litres (Total 10-40) was almost gone. I had run the
    engine to spread the new oil about but still only 4 lights were on.

    I then checked the dipstick and found that there was too much oil.

    Driving the car round the block the next time I started the engine
    all lights were on correctly.

    I've drained the oil off (I'll call it a flush to justify wasting the
    oil and put more new oil in)and refilled it by the dipstick and now both
    dipstick and lights read properly.

    When all else fails I read the handbook which advises 3.2L and checking
    EITHER the dipstick or the lights so have I got a fault, does anything
    need resetting or is this normal? Can anyone say in simple terms how the
    dashboard gauge works?

    The car now seems fine.

    TIA
     
    Blunt Pencil, Sep 22, 2008
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  2. Blunt Pencil

    Nigel Guest

    First of all, these electronic gauges are only an indication and
    cannot be a substitute for the dipstick, so never use them during an
    oil change. Becuase they go through the BSI to indicate on the dash,
    they dont always read the correct level after an oil change until the
    ignition has been off for 5 minutes and then on for about the same
    time (with the engine running).
    So after a change using the dipstick run the engine, adjust the level
    on the dipstick, switch off and take the key out for at least 5
    minutes, drive the car for a short while, then switch off again. The
    indication should then be correct.
     
    Nigel, Sep 24, 2008
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  3. Blunt Pencil

    R N Robinson Guest

    Many thanks for that, Nigel. It explains a trick my 807 likes to play - it
    waits until I have returned from walking the dog on a remote part of
    Dartmoor or somewhere similarly off the map as far as mobile phones are
    concerned and then tells me it is completely out of oil when I go to start
    it. The first time it did it I checked the dipstick (full), the second time
    I looked underneath to see if there was a pool of oil (no). Ever since I
    have taken no notice, but I wonder why a company with the experience that
    Peugeot have should fit a warning device whose only contribution is to focus
    on its own unreliablity.

    Ron Robinson
     
    R N Robinson, Sep 24, 2008
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  4. Blunt Pencil

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Errr... The other brands were doing it, already. This is the mystery of
    marketing / business intelligence : they say "we have to do such a thing".
    I've heard of more reliable sensors available at Peugeot's...
    Anyway, whatever we're talking about older cars like 405s (where it was fit)
    or more modern models, everyone (with a mean intelligence) knows that the
    simplest tool is the more reliable... therefore I always trust the dipstick.
    I noticed that my '02 206 tends to show minimal level when parked bowing on
    the right side.

    And I know a worst kind of electronic oil level indicator : the one fit to
    Renaults only shows "Oil OK" until it goes under the min level. The "squares
    & dots" display can be obtained if the user presses a button. Stupid, eh !

    Regards,
     
    G.T, Sep 26, 2008
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    malc Guest

    I'm not sure but doesn't the gauge only sample the oil level once per switch
    on?

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    Malc
    R1100RS old and tatty

    You laugh at me because I am different
    I laugh at you because you are all the same
     
    malc, Sep 27, 2008
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  6. Blunt Pencil

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    That's possible. It's only intended for "occasional" control, and doesn't
    replace the good old dipstick check, hence the unneeded (unwanted ?)
    reliability.

    Regards,
     
    G.T, Sep 27, 2008
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  7. Blunt Pencil

    R N Robinson Guest

    You are right that you can't argue with the dipstick, but that doesn't mean
    that the gauge need not be reliable. If it is fitted it should work.
    Anything less is an insult to the customer who has had to pay for it as well
    as being bad for the reputation of the makers.

    Ron Robinson
     
    R N Robinson, Sep 28, 2008
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  8. Blunt Pencil

    malc Guest

    I must admit that I can't think of a more awkward way than the OP was using.
    You're pouring oil into an engine. Next to you is a dip stick, a few paces
    away, through a door, on the dashboard is a gauge. Which do you pick?

    --
    Malc
    R1100RS old and tatty

    You laugh at me because I am different
    I laugh at you because you are all the same
     
    malc, Sep 28, 2008
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  9. Blunt Pencil

    Diddly Doo Guest

    It is a THOROUGH oil change which includes checking ALL sensors
    and instruments are working properly? In the OP's case this
    was indeed done by him, double checked and a problem he encountered
    put right before he used the car. I'd rather have an amatuer like that
    change my oil than a main dealer anyday.
     
    Diddly Doo, Sep 28, 2008
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  10. Blunt Pencil

    R N Robinson Guest

    Maybe, but if you want to check the oil level sensor all you have to do is
    see what it says when the sump is empty and again when the dipstick says the
    sump is full. But that doesn't mean the gauge will tell you the truth next
    time. . .

    Ron Robinson
     
    R N Robinson, Sep 29, 2008
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