Petrol in Diesel Tank

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mahseve, Oct 16, 2004.

  1. Mahseve

    Mahseve Guest

    Just out of interest, what would be the symptoms if petrol had been put into
    a diesel car.

    I own a 1.9 Diesel Turbo Meridian.
    Put a tenner in the tank on Thursday afternoon (tank was fairly empty, but
    not enough for the light to come on) - drove home, approx a mile and a half
    and parked up.

    Started up Friday morning, got down the road and the engine felt like it was
    gaining and losing power, turned around, just got home as the car stalled.

    Car started about an hour later, drove around the block, same symptoms
    again, variable power surges and then stalled.
    Have attempted to turn the engine once, but no luck, just doesn't want to
    know.

    I've checked the battery - full charge.
    Pulled out the fuel filter, looks clean (car got serviced a couple of months
    ago, so I know it's not been in for ages).
    I did have a sniff, not sure if the smell is pure diesel or if any petrol is
    mixed in.

    Bearing in mind I've had absolutely no problems with the car before filling
    up on Thursday - could these symptoms suggest petrol in my tank.

    Thanks for any replies.

    Mark
     
    Mahseve, Oct 16, 2004
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  2. Mahseve

    Carl Gibbs Guest

    If thats what you done i think petrol will ruin the diesel pump, which could
    explain the loss of power you described, which could potentially be
    expensive if you took it to a garage.

    Have you not got the reciept for the fuel to check? Check the feel of the
    fuel in the filter, it should feel oily if its diesel. If i were you i
    wouldnt start it again until you know for sure that its got diesel in it.
     
    Carl Gibbs, Oct 16, 2004
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  3. Mahseve

    Mahseve Guest

    I put fuel in at Tesco's, so I guess it really is an outside chance they
    have mixed up fuels in their tanks.

    If my fuel pump had packed up, could that lead to loss of power etc ??
    The most frustrating thing is that I don't know what is wrong with the thing
    at the moment :-(

    Thanks again for any replies / help
     
    Mahseve, Oct 16, 2004
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  4. Mahseve

    vass20 Guest

    Have you checked for air leaks in the pipes leading to your pump and/or
    injectors Also check injectors for tightness. It sounds more like an air
    problem to me. Check your gaskets in your fuel supply especially the ones
    usually accessed for priming. Good luck.
     
    vass20, Oct 16, 2004
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  5. Mahseve

    Mahseve Guest

    Thanks for reply Vass20 - will see what I can find
     
    Mahseve, Oct 16, 2004
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  6. Mahseve

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    And the pump is the least thing you could expect... Injectors may also be on
    their way out.
    Sometimes it just destroys the engine.
     
    G.T, Oct 16, 2004
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  7. Mahseve

    brian Guest

    Did you bleed the air out of the system after you checked the fuel filter?
    If you are sure you filled up with diesel, it is extremely inlikely that
    Tesco have mixed the fuels. Think og the number of other people who would
    also be affected. you would hear about it.

    It certainly sounds like an air problem to me. All the classic symptoms.
    Brian.
     
    brian, Oct 16, 2004
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  8. Mahseve

    Carl Gibbs Guest

    Well sounds like you didnt put any petrol in it then, but still sounds like
    a fueling problem. As other has said check for leaks to see if air is
    getting into the system somewhere.
     
    Carl Gibbs, Oct 16, 2004
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  9. Mahseve

    John Guest

    Same thing happened to us. We got a batch of infected fuel. It was hard to
    get rid of but various stuff from the auto shop worked..

    Good Luck

    John
     
    John, Oct 17, 2004
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  10. Mahseve

    vass20 Guest

    Hey Mahseve,
    if you are that worried why don't you dilute whatever is in your tank with
    more diesel. Some people add a small amount of petrol to get more oomph but
    I don't know what effect that has long-term. If it were going to harm your
    engine (quite unlikely) it would have happened by now. I still reckon
    you've got an air bleed problem but I don't know too much about turbos ( to
    me they're things that Sikhs wear on their heads!!!) so I guess that might
    be affected. If you put a tenner's worth of diesel that would mean about
    three gallons (assuming you're in UK) so if you top up your tank there will
    be a lesser proportion of petrol mixed in if you filled from the wrong pump.
    I don't think for a second that Tesco are in anyway to blame even if I don't
    have any shares in them.

    You did say you had it serviced, so it could be the fuel delivery pipes were
    disturbed when the heaters were changed. I remember my pipes letting in air
    where they screw into the injectors once upon a time and that gave me the
    same problem. If your rubber washer on the bleeding glass is naff, you will
    have a complete refusal to run. I think that's where you will find the
    problem. Good luck.
     
    vass20, Oct 17, 2004
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  11. Gents
    I once put a £1 worth of petrol in my 406 turbo Diesel. On talking to my
    son who works in the fuel industry I diluted it by filling the tank with
    diesel. This was 4 years ago and I have experience no problems as a result
    of this mistake.
    I would look to make sure you have the system primed properly. Try undoing
    the banjo union on the pump whilst pressing the priming bulb until no air is
    forced out much like bleeding brakes. Check the washer on the fuel filter is
    not damaged and seating correctly. Check there is no water in the fuel
    filter by draining the filter with the pipe fitted at the front of the fuel
    filter container.
    Mike
     
    MICHAEL ROCHE, Oct 17, 2004
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  12. I have had the same problem.
    My feul tank has a filter to get air in the tank, when the fuel goes out.
    This filter was stuck.
    You can test it through leave the tank open en drive youre block's arround.

    ciske
     
    Frans Kolsters, Oct 19, 2004
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