Peugeot 307 XSi with TomTom Go SatNav

Discussion in 'Peugeot 307' started by webbo73, Oct 21, 2004.

  1. webbo73

    webbo73 Guest

    Hello all - newbie here - be gentle!

    I'm on the verge of buying a TomTom Go, but am concerned that the GPS signal
    won't get through the windscreen.

    Does anyone have 307 XSi and a TomTom Go and if so, can they confirm whether
    you get a signal and if so, where best to place the unit etc. I've been
    unable to find a definitive response from other posts / sites etc.

    I asked the question of TomTom support but got a generic response about GPS
    not working with athermic windscreens. I think the 307 XSi has one of
    these, but they mentioned also that there "might" be a hold behind the
    mirror where the signal could get through. I'm not about to buy one just to
    try that out.

    I know you can get aerials, but I don't particularly want extra wires in the
    car and I don't know where I could hide the external aerial on the roof and
    still make it look neat - especially as it's black and my car is silver.

    If 307 / TomTom owners do have to use the extra aerial, can you suggest how
    best to fit / route it.

    If anyone has any similar experience, please let me know.

    Thanks

    webbo73
     
    webbo73, Oct 21, 2004
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  2. webbo73

    Nik&Andy Guest

    This was a comment from somebody in last months PC-PLUS magazine, they had a
    307 i think and the windscreen is made from an aluminium type substance.
    They could only use the gps system if attached near the drivers door, close
    to the quarter lite.

    They ended up upgrading to a system with an aerial though.

    Afraid I can't be more specific, I have forgotten the article, I will try
    and find it.

    Andy
     
    Nik&Andy, Oct 21, 2004
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  3. Does anyone have 307 XSi and a TomTom Go and if so, can they confirm whether
    Hi,

    I've got a 406 Coupe, which has an athermic windscreen.

    I've fixed my Tomtom Go to the bottom right of windscreen and it works well
    there. I did have it fitted to the driver's side door, but the pillar blocked
    the satellite signals.

    Similarly, my Snooper radar-detector works with the same windscreen too.

    Hope that helps

    Rob
     
    Myspareidentity, Oct 22, 2004
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  4. webbo73

    Octav Guest

    yes, yes, that's right!

    I had a Garmin etrex legend and it was such a suprise to see that it has a
    very poor performance near the windscreen!!
    Luckily, mine is 307sw, so it had a far better reception from the roof
    glass, even through the hatch closed!
    This is how I had it operating fine.

    Now I bought a Garmin gpsmap76c with an external antenna, which is far more
    sensitive.

    Octavian

    PS:
    yes, the statement about a better reception near the drivers door, close to
    the quarter lite
    is right. I tested it also with legend it that's what I noticed. however,
    it's a bit inconvenient to place the gps unit there.
     
    Octav, Oct 22, 2004
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  5. webbo73

    Nik&Andy Guest

    I have found the article in last months PC-PLUS and have OCR'd it on my
    scanner, so do not be supprised if there are funny mistakes in it.

    This is the article.
    Through the windscreen
    Your August issue (PC Plus 219) carried a Hardware Lab Test featuring GPS
    Kits, which I went straight to when your magazine popped through the door. I
    found this Lab Test an
    interesting read but, having been an iPAQ/GPS owner since 2002, your article
    missed two very important factors that other readers would need to consider
    if they're looking to
    purchase a GPS kit.
    I purchased my iPAQ 3850 when it was bundled with the original iNS (IPAQ
    Navigation System) and two problems immediately came to light. Firstly, no
    matter what I did, this GPS unit would not work when attached to my car
    windscreen and, secondly, when I did manage to get a signal, it took
    anything up to 10 minutes to get an initial fix on my current location.
    Your article gave the Editor's Choice award to the Navman iCN 630 v2, which
    I know wouldn't work as
    illustrated on the dashboard of my Peugeot 206. The reason for this is that
    Peugeot, and many other car
    manufacturers, put in heat-reflective windscreens to keep things cool in
    summer. However, heat-reflective
    windscreens also block GPS signals and prevent dashboard- or
    windscreen-mounted devices from working properly unless an external wired
    antenna is also fitted. My original problem was overcome by mounting my GPS
    device on the side window, as my hardware didn't accommodate an external
    antenna. When I wanted to wind down my window, off came the iPAQ and GPS
    unit and there went my signal! Today I'm using the same iPAO with a
    Bluetooth Sleeve and a
    Globalsat 308 GPS Unit that comes with an external antenna, and I can now
    have my iPAQ positioned discreetly on my windscreen, communicating via
    Bluetooth. With this new hardware comes a better TTF (Time To Fix) -
    measured in seconds as opposed to minutes - so when starting out or emerging
    from a tunnel, the device quickly re-establishes where it is and gets on
    with the directions.
    I'm seriously impressed with the iPAQ Navigation system running either
    TomTom or CoPilot software. Each title has its benefits but, given that I've
    had to speak to ALK Customer Service at least three times for
    problems I shouldn't really have
    encountered, puts the Co-Pilot
    Software second to TomTom. I used TomTom software a couple of weeks ago
    while navigating around the Lake District, and was able to find small,
    twisty roads bringing me alongside the lakes that, otherwise, I would have
    missed. Despite the little glitches from time to time, I wouldn't leave home
    now without my PAQ and GPS unit. I'd be lost without them.
    Martin O'Connell
    Editor, Ian Robson, replies: It
    seems that not all heat-reflective technology is the same. While Peugeot's
    windscreens feature aluminium-based heat-reflective coatings, which have an
    adverse affect on GPS signals, Saab's design is more sophisticated. Our
    reviewer reinforced his Editor's Choice
    recommendation by stating that, not only did the Navman work perfectly well
    in his Saab 93, but also in a number of other vehicles. The only way to be
    sure is to ask the car and/or GPS manufacturer for a compatibility list.



    Regards, Andy

    PS: - I know I probably have just broken several copyright laws.....
     
    Nik&Andy, Oct 22, 2004
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  6. Johnnie Scott, Oct 22, 2004
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  7. You'll have a problem as the Peugeot has an Athermic Windscreen coating.
    However if you but the external antenna accessory you'll be fine.
     
    Darren Griffin - PocketGPS, Oct 22, 2004
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  8. webbo73

    Nick \(UK\) Guest

    I have a 307s Hatchback with Athermic Screen. You can mount the TTG beside
    the rear view mirror but the signal is patchy at best. I would strongly
    recommend you purchase the external aerial.

    I have mine mounted on the right hand side of the windscreen adjacent to the
    door pillar. I run my power cable behind the dash and pop it up through the
    gearstick gaiter and plug it into the power socket there. I have run the
    aerial cable along inside the headlining seal to the rear of the car and
    have it mounted vertically in the void where the hinges are.

    I get a very strong signal by doing this and the aerial receiver is not
    visible and therefore will not attract the light fingered!

    In my opinion this box of tricks is one of the best things ever invented and
    I guarantee you will have no regrets buying one.


    Good luck,

    Nick.
     
    Nick \(UK\), Oct 22, 2004
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  9. webbo73

    webbo73 Guest

    Thank you all for your replies - fantastic as ever! I wish shops were as
    helpful as you guys!

    webbo73
     
    webbo73, Oct 24, 2004
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  10. webbo73

    webbo73 Guest

    Thanks very much for that informative reply Nick - any chance you could
    reply to me offline so I can ask you some more detailed questions regarding
    the installation of the aerial etc.?

    Thanks again

    Mike
    (take out the spam trap to reply)
     
    webbo73, Oct 24, 2004
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  11. I do have tomtom Go and a Peugeot 307 XSI HDI.
    Its working great and no problem at all.
    Also my old Tom Tom 3.01 working great with my PDA.

    So no worry's

    Bert
     
    bert van holst, Oct 25, 2004
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