pug 205 1.6 gti (F reg) + smoky exhaust

Discussion in 'Peugeot 205' started by species8350, Sep 3, 2005.

  1. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    I am experiencing a smoky exhaust. The smoke isn't blue or black just
    greyish.

    Any idea what causes the smoky exhaust and how I can rectify the
    problem. The car runs and idles well.

    Thanks
     
    species8350, Sep 3, 2005
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  2. Have you checked the water level? Steam-coloured exhaust can signify a head
    gasket on the way out.

    Ron Robinson
     
    R.N. Robinson, Sep 3, 2005
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  3. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    Water level is 'A OK'

    Exhaust smells a bit oily

    Sp.
     
    species8350, Sep 4, 2005
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  4. species8350

    R Guest


    If smoke is all the time, or under acceleration, it's an indication of worn
    piston rings.

    If on start up, or backing off the throttle, it's likely to be valve seals.
     
    R, Sep 4, 2005
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  5. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    I don't think that either really apply

    Its not really noticable when driving.
    But when at the lights, or in a traffic jam, or just idling, then its
    notceable

    Thanks

    Sp.
     
    species8350, Sep 5, 2005
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  6. species8350

    dreadly Guest

    Black smoke is burning too much fuel, the 205 does have some hesitaton
    problems at idle, A lot of people chip them to sort this issue.
    It could well be overfuelling, I suspect a quik emmisions test would
    tell you that though, as emmisions would be up a fair bit.

    It doesn't sound like any oil is being burned as this would usually
    create a blue haze from the exhaust.

    It could be steam vapour, especially if you have an aftermaket boy racer
    exhaust fitted as these can hold a lot of water inside them, especially
    if you never do high mileage too warm them up and you wash it regularly
    or use car washes.

    Don't dimiss impending head gasket failure though, it would only take a
    very very small leak into the cylinders to create a steam trail, it
    would not even have to leak enough water to effect the water level.

    Andy
     
    dreadly, Sep 6, 2005
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  7. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    Thanks for responding

    What about the problem only occuring at idle

    What did you mean by 'chip them'

    Thanks

    sp.
     
    species8350, Sep 6, 2005
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  8. species8350

    dreadly Guest

    The GTI's - I don't know if it's only the 1.9 or both engines suffer
    from hesitation at low revs and idle badly.
    The fix for this is to have them chipped, i.e. have the ECU reprogrammed.

    If a car is only smoking at idle that is usually just because it is more
    noticable as the exhaust gases are travelling a lot slower.

    If a car had blue smoke at idle it would indicate that oil was running
    down the valve stems past the oil seals and into the combustion chamber.
    This is usually caused by hardening of the seals and is common on
    engines that tend to run at higher temperatures such as french petrol
    engines, however, you state the smoke is not blue.
    This small oil leak is not enough however to cause blue smoke at higher
    revs so the usual rule is that if the smoke continues to below out even
    under load then oil is being pulled past the oil scraper rings on the
    pistons on the downward stroke, thus burning oil.
    This can only be corrected by replacing the rings and re-honing or
    reboring etc... - usually fairly terminal as bearing etc usually need
    replacing also after this kind of wear.

    Excess fuel, which I suspect is your problem can be caused by several
    faults, one of which is blocked fuel injectors, another is a faulty
    Lambda sensor, another is a broken/faulty ECU etc....

    As I said earlier, the only real way to tell what type of smoke it is
    would be a gas emmisions test, post the results and lets have a laugh.
    If the Hydrocarbons are way up it would tend to point to too much
    fuel/oil. If emmisions are ok, then it's probably water vapour.

    I hope I got that correct ??? - And real mechanics out there please feel
    free to corrct me, I have nothing against learning new tricks ;)

    Has yours got a CAT ???

    Andy
     
    dreadly, Sep 6, 2005
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  9. species8350

    species8350 Guest

    No CAT

    IS ECU another name for the air flow meter? If not, I don' think I've
    got an ECU?

    Wouldn't too much fuel lead to black smoke?

    What about the effect of the breather system on the quality of the
    exhaust?
     
    species8350, Sep 7, 2005
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  10. species8350

    naughtymutt Guest

    Your ECU is inside under the dash board.
     
    naughtymutt, Sep 9, 2005
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