rattle

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Chrs, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    This is doing my head in, a rattle first thing when car has been
    standing all night and it gos away after about 3 secs of engine
    running ,have replaced the fan belt the belt tensioner so any body got
    any idea what it could be, sprayed oil on fan belt and it stops, so
    could it be the belt too lose?
     
    Chrs, Jun 18, 2007
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  2. Sounds like the oil filter draining. Have you changed it lately? If you
    have you didn't get one with an anti-drain valve.

    Ron Robinson
     
    R.N. Robinson, Jun 18, 2007
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  3. Possible early signs of the crankshaft pulley going. It is rubber bonded
    on 406's and is a known problem. It may apply to the 405 as well.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jun 19, 2007
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  4. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    Also i have notice when it got wet when i washed the engine and got the
    bottom pulley wet thats when the noise was there.it has only started
    first thing in the morning,the rest of the day it is not there, also
    the engine has not lost any power at all,
     
    Chrs, Jun 19, 2007
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  5. You 'sprayed oil on the fanbelt'? Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!! Leave the poor car
    alone.
     
    Shiver Me Timbers, Jun 19, 2007
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  6. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    yeap and it stopped it for a time..
     
    Chrs, Jun 19, 2007
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  7. Yes I had the same problem with brakes shoes
    keep squeaking once. I just covered them
    in oil and they were fine afterwards.
     
    Shiver Me Timbers, Jun 19, 2007
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  8. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    it was wd40 not oil like i said in the last list i turned the fanbelt
    side ways and it gos from 1/4too to 12 oclock so i think it is the belt
     
    Chrs, Jun 19, 2007
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  9. Chrs

    Zoab Guest

    Chris. the only thing to put on a fan belt is brake fluid.

    Bryan
     
    Zoab, Jun 19, 2007
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  10. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    And does that stop it making a noise? never heard of that before
     
    Chrs, Jun 20, 2007
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  11. Chrs

    Zoab Guest

    Oil and rubber do not mix, the oil rots the rubber. In the old days if you
    had a squeak on a pulley, a drop of brake fluid was the standard method of
    stopping the squeak, but never ever oil.

    Bryan
     
    Zoab, Jun 20, 2007
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  12. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    Its more of a rattle than a squeak.its not there all the time like
    today no noise from it first thing.and i have been stopping and
    starting alday with out any noise.i have been told it could be the fan
    belt too loose and when it gets a little warm or hot it dont make any
    noise.
     
    Chrs, Jun 21, 2007
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  13. Chris, reference my earlier contribution. If the 405 has the rubber bonded
    crankshaft pulley it is worth checking out because what you describe is
    exactly how my 406 behaved when it was on the way out.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jun 21, 2007
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  14. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    have checked the bottom pulley and it is all steel no rubber on it all
     
    Chrs, Jun 21, 2007
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  15. Ah well, at least you have eliminated one possibility. It will be
    interesting to see what turns out to be the problem. I was hoping Nigel or
    GT might spot this thread because they invariably come up with the best
    answers.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jun 22, 2007
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  16. Chrs

    Nigel Guest

    Been away for a week, and I haven't got the beginning of this thread.
    Just been on Google to read from the start.
    I presume the car is a 405? Chris, have you actually tightened the
    belt yet? You say you have changed the belt and tensioner. Were they
    both Peugeot parts or cheap pattern ones? If the noise goes away when
    you put oil on the belt, or WD40 then I would think there is a problem
    in that area. Try tightening first. It's difficult to say how tight as
    you are supposed to use a special gauge, but a quarter of a turn on
    the longest run should be tight enough.
     
    Nigel, Jun 22, 2007
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  17. Cor, that was quick Nigel. I feel like Aladdin when he rubbed the lamp
    ;o)
    Assuming the week away was holiday I trust it was good.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jun 22, 2007
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  18. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    That thing has been as good as gold alday today,the other thing is i
    had to check the air in my tyres the other day because i found my power
    steering light,when i pulled up at tescos found that the front ones had
    46psi in each one and back one had 35psi.i reset the front ones for
    31psi and backs to 32psi i also checked these when the car had been
    standing for4 hrs just incase the heat made the tryes swell up.now i
    know that i am turning my wheels,which i like to feel.all the parts are
    Peugeot parts fitted, have been told by peugeot at walton on thames it
    sounds like the belt just needs doing up a little bit more, also they
    said it will not hurt to leave it for now, so i might say sod it and
    leave it,Thank you too you of you that replyed to me about this
    matter,this group have been very helpful to me over the years that i
    have been on here,
     
    Chrs, Jun 22, 2007
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  19. Chrs

    Chrs Guest

    That thing has been as good as gold alday today,the other thing is i
    had to check the air in my tyres the other day because i found my power
    steering light,when i pulled up at tescos found that the front ones had
    46psi in each one and back one had 35psi.i reset the front ones for
    31psi and backs to 32psi i also checked these when the car had been
    standing for4 hrs just incase the heat made the tryes swell up.now i
    know that i am turning my wheels,which i like to feel.all the parts are
    Peugeot parts fitted, have been told by peugeot at walton on thames it
    sounds like the belt just needs doing up a little bit more, also they
    said it will not hurt to leave it for now, so i might say sod it and
    leave it,Thank you too you of you that replyed to me about this
    matter,this group have been very helpful to me over the years that i
    have been on here,
     
    Chrs, Jun 22, 2007
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  20. Actually Chris you have been equally helpful to other people on this group.
    I see that you too use "Walchry as was" at Walton. Apparently that name
    was derived from WALton CHRYsler which was their original agency. Of
    course the Walchry name has gone this year.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jun 22, 2007
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