Recommend an ECU code reader for Pug 306 1998 (UK)

Discussion in 'Peugeot 306' started by David Hearn, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. David Hearn

    David Hearn Guest

    Can anyone recommend a suitable fault code reader for a Peugeot 306 1.4l
    petrol (Equinox badge), originally purchased in 1998, August I think.
    It's a UK model and is the new style.

    It has the 'standard' OBD connector behind the internal fuse box (in the
    driver's footwell) - but I've yet to find any confirmation whether the
    car actually uses OBDII etc.

    Ideally I'd like something which could give extended information (not
    just fault codes, but engine parameters etc), or the more detailed fault
    codes (letter + 4 digit), rather than just the more basic slow code
    flashing light ones.

    However, I don't know whether this car supports any of these more
    advanced reporting - hence my request for a recommendation of a reader
    which is known to work with this model era.

    Thanks

    David
     
    David Hearn, Feb 21, 2008
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    Steve B Guest

    The UifTech U581 (£60 eBay) I've just bought is supposed to be tested as OK
    with the 306. I have no way of checking this out though. Was your car on
    sale in the U.S.A in '98? That would make it extremely likely to be OBD2
    compatible. There's supposed to be an emissions sticker under the bonnet
    stating OBD2 or EOBD but my daughter's '02 Megane doesn't have one and it
    works OK with the U581. The U581 does generic and manufacturer's codes with
    text descriptions, no idea how extensive the coverage of OEM codes is
    though, and seems to be the cheapest hand OBD2 EOBD CAN scanner with live
    data functions and is the reason I bought it. It's also internet
    updateable. To do better I think you're talking £120 and upwards.
     
    Steve B, Feb 21, 2008
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  3. David Hearn

    David Hearn Guest

    The issue I seem to have is that there are 2 sorts of readers for
    Peuegots - ones which connect onto a connector on the ECU box in the
    engine bay (remove 2 pin connector - insert reader connector into 1 pin,
    other connector to an earth) and these are the flashing light versions.
    However, this connector is not present on my 1998 306. The
    documentation for one of these readers suggests that these work with 306
    models up to 1993 - but I certainly don't have the required connector.

    The other connector type is an OBD connector next to the steering wheel
    in the fuse box - which this 1998 model 306 has. However, searching
    around on the internet it suggests that it was actually from 2001 that
    this connector was OBD compliant. Apparently, when people have tried
    standard OBD readers in my era of car, they've found that they don't
    work. Typical Peugeot way of doing things - put a standard plug on
    there, but don't implement the actual software interface to that
    standard! As yet, looking at the documentation for all the OBD readers,
    Peugeots are only listed from 2001. The EU required all new model
    petrol cars sold in the EU to implement OBD, but existing models got an
    extension to 2001, which might explain why 2001 is listed everywhere.

    So I'm in a bit of a black hole. Older reader's won't work (wrong
    connector), and newer OBD readers won't work as the software interface
    is wrong. There doesn't seem to be an reader for the interim models.

    The only possible thing I can think of is that one of the pins on the
    'slightly OBD' connector exposes the same pin that the old on-ECU
    connector did - but unfortunately I've not yet found any information
    about that.

    I believe my old garage which did MOTs (not a Peugeot dealer or
    specialist) used to include the exact RPM + temp during the emissions
    test. My current one (council depot) overrides this and does it
    manually ensuring it's up to temp etc. Does anyone know anything about
    these emissions testers, and how they read the temp/RPM for these
    machines? Because it they use OBD2, then it may give me some hope.

    Thanks

    D
     
    David Hearn, Feb 22, 2008
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  4. David Hearn

    Mrcheerful Guest

    My MoT place has a gadget that plugs into the cigarette lighter to send the
    rpm to the emissions machine, it can also use a standard HT lead pickup if
    needed, oil temp is usually just interpreted as OK by visual inspection, but
    there is also a probe that can be put down the dip stick hole if in doubt
    that confirms the exact temperature of the oil to the machine.

    He also has a Launch code reader that reads everything imaginable, but it
    was several thousand pounds worth !

    Mrcheerful
     
    Mrcheerful, Feb 22, 2008
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  5. David Hearn

    CJK Guest

    Certainly true for my '98 406 which is fitted with the OBD connector
    apparently wired for
    ISO 9141-2 but the (Bosch) ECU does not support OBD.

    Chris K
     
    CJK, Feb 22, 2008
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