Various issues on Peugeot 406 2.0 LX

Discussion in 'Peugeot 406' started by dazza12, Mar 24, 2005.

  1. dazza12

    dazza12 Guest

    I’ve just bought a second hand Peugeot 406 2.0i LX, 1996 P Reg.

    Got some problems with it, and I’m hoping you guys can point me in the
    right direction. I’m aware some of these questions have been answered
    in part on other posts, but I’m also aware of the acute differences
    between 406s. Sorry for the long post!

    Firstly, there’s a clicking, followed by a tired motor noise. It’s
    happening when the engine is running, but noticable when the car is
    not moving. I understand this may be because the gears have stripped
    off of the recirculation motor? If so, I again understand it’s cheaper
    for me to locate this motor and just unplug it?

    The speedo worked ok whilst I drove it home. I’ve been driving about
    40 miles in it. Now, it will not go above 0. If I leave the car for an
    hour or so it will register the correct speed, but after about 10
    minutes, it drops to 0 again. Is this the sender unit or something
    else? The engine performance doesn’t seem to be affected.

    My odometer can only be seen in daylight. I understand this will be
    the bulb. Is this easy to get to and replace? If so, is there a
    particular part number and stockist I will need?

    Finally, do these cars normally come with a remote locking plip? I
    only got a key with the car, and I think this is an aftermarket one
    (branded Silca with no buttons). If so, where can I get another one.
    And does it need to be programmed to the car by a Peugeot dealer
    (kerching!)? I ask because in my job I’m often carrying heavy loads
    towards the car. It would be so much easier to unlock by pressing a
    button!

    Many thanks in advance for any help you can give.
     
    dazza12, Mar 24, 2005
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  2. dazza12

    Mindwipe Guest

    it is easier to just unplug it if you know you wont need recirc
    usually sender connector although you need to check it to be sure as senders
    go down too
    bulb available from peugeot dealers is a modified part number which should
    blow as quickly
    normally they do come with remote keys (2 of)
    you need to know if you have deadlocking or single locking
    dont know of anyone but dealers who can order keys for you
    others here may be able to add to this comment though
     
    Mindwipe, Mar 24, 2005
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  3. dazza12

    dazza12 Guest

    Planning to unplug the recirculation motor this weekend. However
    getting prices from Cit-ren etc for when I get bored one summer
    weekend and have time to fix it. Am I correct in thinking that I can
    reach the motor plug from the passenger footwell in order to
    disconnect it?

    When you say sender connector, do you mean the unit inside the car or
    on the gearbox? I’ve seen various postings that mention a box the size
    of a cigarette packet that can fail.

    I noticed today that there was an occasional wobble from the RPM
    counter, once going to 0 and then behaving itself since. Is this
    related? If it is the unit inside the car, is this reached in the same
    way as the recirculation motor, or is it nearer to the drivers side?
    Also, I noticed the speedo worked for about an hour today, and stayed
    at 0 for the rest of the day.

    I’ll get the bulb for the dashboard tomorrow. In fact, I’ll get a few
    if they go regularly.

    Spoke to the dealer today who quoted big bucks for replacement keys
    and fobs. Only after the fob though, if that’s possible. I’m not sure
    if I’ve got deadlocking or single locking. How can I check? I haven’t
    got the original manual.

    Thank you very much for your help.
     
    dazza12, Mar 25, 2005
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  4. dazza12

    Ben Guest

    Hold the key in the locking position for a second, you should hear the
    deadlocking come on if you have it. (my car is the sane model and does).
     
    Ben, Mar 25, 2005
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  5. dazza12

    dazza12 Guest

    Just been out to check, it does have the deadlock. I understand that’s
    the fob with 2 buttons then?

    Just need to work out what hoops to jump through with my dealer to get
    a fob now. Probably want to know everything about the car, chassis
    number, inside leg measurement, neighbour’s phone number, then just
    give me a generic one off the shelf!

    I don’t think I’ve got an alarm on this car, but not really had a
    chance to check. Is there a standard Peugeot alarm for it that just
    plugs in, or am I better getting an aftermarket alarm?
     
    dazza12, Mar 25, 2005
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  6. dazza12

    Ben Guest

    Just been out to check, it does have the deadlock. I understand that's
    Mine has no alarm. Do you have to enter a pin number for the immobiliser?
     
    Ben, Mar 26, 2005
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  7. dazza12

    dazza12 Guest

    Yes, just the pin number. It’s just the immobiliser. But just wondered
    if it could have the Pug alarm fitted, and if it could whether it just
    plugs in somewhere.
     
    dazza12, Mar 26, 2005
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    Seafarer Guest

    It's not alarmed,at least looking at the schematics,mine is not.I
    think they thought the second button on the fob immobilising the car
    acts as an alarm.A cheap fitted one may cover the insurance as my
    dealer informed my insurance it was alarmed,it plainly is not but it
    is immobilised.Insurance may use it not to pay out claims so I think
    I'll have a cheapo fitted.
     
    Seafarer, Mar 27, 2005
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  9. A 1996 P reg LX 406 wont have a factory fitted alarm.

    You do have the insurance approved Thatcham Cat 2 keypad immobiliser as
    standard.

    Dont bother with the Peugeot add on alarms, They are overpriced & you can
    get a much better alarm fitted for less money.
     
    Lee Power via CarKB.com, Mar 31, 2005
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  10. dazza12

    just4funUK Guest

    I have brought a R Peugeot 406 2.0 LX Auto
    It doesnt have a Keypad for immobiliser was the immobiliser an
    optional extra Or should it of had one fitted to the car as Standard?

    The Philips Radio is under a flap. There is no LCD screen is this
    Normal also doesnt seem to be doing anything when I press power no
    noise from speakers music or Noise. Notice the is a security code
    button are you meant to press this and enter Number everytime you want
    to use?

    Thanks for any Help
     
    just4funUK, Apr 7, 2005
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  11. Hi

    All the U.K. spec 406s had Thatcham Cat 2 immobilisers fitted at the
    factory. The early 406s had the keypad immobiliser, But being a R reg it
    might have the later transponder chip in the key.

    A lot of 406 have the remote keys set to unlock the keypad when pliped with
    the remote & owners are sometimes unaware there new car even needs a 4
    digit security code for a keypad, That is untill the battery goes flat or
    gets disconnected & then the fun starts if you dont have the code.

    To find out what type of immobiliser you have, Have a look near the drivers
    right hand knee area on the dash, Is there a little flap that pops down? If
    yes then it is keypad equipped.

    The Philips radio on the higher spec 406s uses the display with the outside
    temp on also next to the rear heated screen, hazard lights & heated rear
    window on the centre consoul.

    You shouldnt have to put the security code in ever time you want to use the
    stereo, It should only ask for the code when its unplugged or the battery
    is disconected / goes flat.

    It sounds like the radio fuse might have blown.

    Also, Press the button marked OPEN in the middle of the stereo, Does the
    flap open on its own?
     
    Lee Power via CarKB.com, Apr 7, 2005
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  12. dazza12

    just4funUK Guest

    Thanks You

    For the infomation given
    Will have a look and see if I have got the flap under the drivers
    side.
    know dought will post more questions.
     
    just4funUK, Apr 8, 2005
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  13. You where right about the fuse on the radio thanks for that info the fuse
    fitted a 10Amp had blown (seems large to me) didnt have one to hand so put
    5amp fuse wire across to see if any life wouldd appear. The radio now does
    open and close the front when you press ity and also takes a tape but still
    no sound.But I still dont know where the display is.There doesnt seem to be
    anywhere where a display could be.

    It also does have the flap that drops down on Drivers side but no keypad is
    in there.Does this mean that the keyfob is activating imobiliser.The
    indicators do flash when keyfob button is used to lock car.Is this an
    indication that car imobiliser is armed.If battery is ever disconnected
    could I have problems? or as its done by keyfob should be OK?Would like to
    know before it ever happens so I can try to get Number from peugeot now
    rather than later.

    Thanks for any info
     
    David Collins via CarKB.com, Apr 12, 2005
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  14. dazza12

    just4funUK Guest

    You where right about the fuse on the radio thanks for that info the
    fuse fitted a 10Amp had blown (seems large to me) didnt have one to
    hand so put 5amp fuse wire across to see if any life wouldd appear.
    The radio now does open and close the front when you press ity and
    also takes a tape but still no sound.But I still dont know where the
    display is.There doesnt seem to be anywhere where a display could be.

    It also does have the flap that drops down on Drivers side but no
    keypad is in there.Does this mean that the keyfob is activating
    imobiliser.The indicators do flash when keyfob button is used to lock
    car.Is this an indication that car imobiliser is armed.If battery is
    ever disconnected could I have problems? or as its done by keyfob
    should be OK?Would like to know before it ever happens so I can try to
    get Number from peugeot now rather than later.

    Thanks for any info
     
    just4funUK, Apr 12, 2005
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  15. Hi

    It sounds like you have the later transponder immobiliser key, The lack of
    a keypad confirms this.

    The immobiliser is armed when the key is removed from the ignition, Even if
    you dont plip the car to lock it the immobiliser is armed as soon as the
    key is removed from the ignition barrel.

    Its all worked by magnets & a tiny chip in the key, As well as an aerial
    coil ( That Peugeot moddified around october 1998 because of failures )
    around the igntion barrel.

    A new aerial coil is around ?28 when it starts to play up & an easy diy
    fittment, A couple of screws & one connector plug.

    The radio you describe with a opening flap sounds like the high spec
    Philips unit I had on my GLX 406, The display unit was on the dashboard
    next to the 3 switches, Heated rear window, Rear fog & hazard warning.
    The display unit also houses the outside temperature display.
     
    Lee Power via CarKB.com, Apr 12, 2005
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  16. Lee Power via CarKB.com, Apr 12, 2005
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  17. dazza12

    just4funUK Guest

    I am starting to suspect someone has just put this radio in just to
    fill the whole where the radio should be.Its the philips type where
    the front lifts when you press the open/close button but where you say
    there should be a display there is just a holder of some kind. Next to
    the hazard lights button.Where you could put small items.(Wouldnt be
    very easy to get them out though).

    Thanks for the picture at least I now know the radio is not the
    original one as I dont have the display in the car.
     
    just4funUK, Apr 14, 2005
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  18. dazza12

    just4funUK Guest


    Firstly, there’s a clicking, followed by a tired motor noise. It’s
    happening when the engine is running, but noticable when the car is
    not moving. I understand this may be because the gears have stripped
    off of the recirculation motor? If so, I again understand it’s cheaper
    for me to locate this motor and just unplug it?

    Have found to stop the clicking if it bothers you.Well this stops it
    in my car turn the circulate air internallly only on.This seems to
    stop the clicking.
     
    just4funUK, Apr 17, 2005
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