veg oil or diesel

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Madrigo Padrigo, Feb 5, 2006.

  1. Hearing a lot aabout using various types of cooking oil instead of diesel?

    Your views please.

    TIA
     
    Madrigo Padrigo, Feb 5, 2006
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    Bigbird Guest

    1. It's illegal or pointless
    2. Too viscous for cold weather.
     
    Bigbird, Feb 5, 2006
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    daddyfreddy Guest

    It's not simply a case of shoving cooking oil straight into the car.
    You need to add something or another and leave it to 'ferment'.
    It's also only usable on direct injection engines, AFAIK.

    Your best get is a google. However, it's illegal to use the stuff and I
    certainly wouldn't use it.
     
    daddyfreddy, Feb 5, 2006
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    Malc Guest

    There's a chap who posts in the alt.autos.citroen group whos run his
    Xantia on a 50/50 diesel/sunflower oil mix for the last 4000 miles at
    temperatures down to -7 Celcius. Claims not to have had any problems so
    far.
     
    Malc, Feb 5, 2006
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    Tony Hoyle Guest

    That's basically B50 biodiesel (they use a catalyst to break that down
    though rather than using pure sunflower oil.. ). It's perfectly legal
    as long as you pay the tax on it...

    Wouldn't bother making my own - just find a local producer and buy
    some. Tax is 20p/litre less than standard diesel, but the production
    costs are higher so you don't save a lot, if anything.

    The original diesels were run on peanut oil and (later) vegetable
    oil... it's taken us 100 years to come full circle. Gotta love
    progress :p

    Tony
     
    Tony Hoyle, Feb 5, 2006
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    Brian Guest

    You can get a lot of information here
    http://www.bio-power.co.uk/index.htm

    Ignoring the legality issue in many countries, there are lots of
    ill-informed opinions around. Pretty well all diesels will run on
    bio-diesel, either direct, or indirect injection.
    You can also run on 100% neat sunflower oil, but you will need to start on
    normal fuel, and be able to switch over to the veggie when the engine is
    warm. You will also require an additional heat exchanger on the veggie fuel
    line to heat it slightly. Thus you need an additional small tank for normal
    diesel.
    There is an issue with certain types of bio fuel, depending on the way they
    are produced, certain additives can attack some rubber seals on fuel pumps.
    This is assuming you are reclaiming old frying oil.
     
    Brian, Feb 6, 2006
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    Chris Guest

    So have you got all the stock of Sunflower oil out of Tescos
    Brian???/lol lol lol
    from Chris Addlestone Surrey
     
    Chris, Feb 6, 2006
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    Malc Guest

    My local ethnic shop (I don't know which country the owners are from) sells
    veg oil in 5 gallon drums.
     
    Malc, Feb 6, 2006
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    Brian Guest

    I never buy more than 3 litres at a time, for the chip pan of course.
     
    Brian, Feb 6, 2006
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    Ian O'Dowd Guest

    Most supermarkets are wise to 'alternative' uses for cooking oil and will
    refuse to sell it in volume.

    I'm suprised they haven't pioneered Bio Diesel in their pumps though as I'm
    guessing they are aligned nicely to do so and return a nice profit.
     
    Ian O'Dowd, Feb 8, 2006
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